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Stop ignoring your spouse at lifestyle events

We see a lot of times where one half of the spouse is so into the lifestyle they forget they have a spouse with them and focus all their attention on the new friends. We want to remind everyone that this can be a very dangerous route and you should never ignore or forget that your spouse is with you.

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Transcript

00:00:00:00 – 00:00:15:22
Tom
Hey, everyone. We’re Tom and Bonnie, and we got Bama here. Bama wants her stuffed animal. Hold on. Right here. Let me get her. If you’re watching this on YouTube, this is Bama. Bama bear right now.

00:00:15:24 – 00:00:18:04
Bunny
She doesn’t know that we have to work.

00:00:18:07 – 00:00:49:11
Tom
So we’re Tom and Bonnie from Tom and Buncombe. And if you are interested in pineapple topics, check us out on YouTube and on podcast on all the major podcast sites. Tom and Bonnie. And if you can, follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Tom and Bonnie and we work for Tom’s troops.com cheerleader and adult lifestyle travel to destinations all around the world with cruises, resorts and events.

00:00:49:14 – 00:01:08:18
Tom
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00:01:08:23 – 00:01:16:16
Bunny
And even if, you look at and you say, oh, well, they don’t have a group that week, I can still book you. Yes. If it’s available online, I can book it for you.

00:01:16:16 – 00:01:28:21
Tom
Yep. We can book hedonism all year long and we also book Desire and Temptation, as well as The Bluest blessed Desire and Temptation Cruises. Yes. And Nadia Nolan’s.

00:01:28:24 – 00:01:31:13
Bunny
Of course. And now splash parties.

00:01:31:16 – 00:01:37:00
Tom
And splash parties. So today’s topic is.

00:01:37:02 – 00:01:38:21
Bunny
Help you stay out of the doghouse?

00:01:38:21 – 00:01:47:04
Tom
Yeah, stay out of the doghouse because, Bunny, she brought this up a couple weeks ago.

00:01:47:07 – 00:01:54:04
Bunny
I brought it up and several months ago when I was first approached. I mean, we’re approached a lot with different things.

00:01:54:04 – 00:02:01:09
Tom
So let’s give the scenario what you’re up. I mean, what we’re saying is neglect.

00:02:01:11 – 00:02:11:07
Bunny
Yeah. Yeah, it is neglect on your spouse. Yeah. So basically what’s have basically.

00:02:11:09 – 00:02:13:12
Tom
Well what’s what’s written down up here.

00:02:13:12 – 00:02:20:18
Bunny
Let’s just start when you’re getting ready to go on lifetime vacation, to one of the great events.

00:02:20:18 – 00:02:21:05
Tom
The club.

00:02:21:05 – 00:02:36:22
Bunny
Even a club or a night out with another couple or a single, you want to talk about possibilities of scenarios, so you want to know where your partner is in line with you.

00:02:36:22 – 00:02:38:13
Tom
And where your boundaries are.

00:02:38:17 – 00:02:43:01
Bunny
You don’t want to be ten steps ahead of your partner.

00:02:43:03 – 00:02:46:24
Tom
And you got to make sure that you both like without.

00:02:46:24 – 00:02:48:00
Bunny
Your partner knowing.

00:02:48:02 – 00:03:24:21
Tom
Without your partner know. Yeah. Oh, our previous video, we talked about our boundaries and, we started off with a book of rules of what we couldn’t do. And then we created boundaries based on our actual real life experiences and activities because we talked about each scenario. Even still today, 20 some years later, almost 30 years later, we talk about every scenario as if it were a first time scenario.

00:03:24:21 – 00:03:57:15
Tom
And we want to know what we liked about it, what we could have done better. Yeah, to make it even more fun. But and then not a requirement is if there was anything we did not like about the scenario, we would either discuss it out our adopt a boundary about it. One of our boundaries is, is we keep an eye on each other during the whole socializing to play all the time.

00:03:57:19 – 00:04:17:17
Tom
Not that we’re watching each other like a hawk. We’re watching to make sure that we’re all on the same page. We’re having a good time. If someone’s not having a good time, we can pick up the cues. That goes for either me or me, our buddy. I won’t be here, buddy. So.

00:04:17:24 – 00:04:31:10
Bunny
And and that even that even goes for the other couple. If if I’m seeing something that, you know, one of them isn’t feeling it or feeling clicky, I will even say, hey, is everything okay?

00:04:31:13 – 00:04:56:23
Tom
I’ve seen buddy, I’m struggling. And Bonnie’s called the wife over because we we all know each other’s buttons to push. And there are times of emergency where somebody is trying their best, but they’re not just making the grade. And sometimes it’s the spouse that gets them over.

00:04:56:25 – 00:04:59:17
Bunny
Yeah. Absolutely. And I’ve done it for Tom before many.

00:04:59:17 – 00:05:00:16
Tom
Many times, many.

00:05:00:16 – 00:05:06:17
Bunny
Many times I’d be like hold on let me, let me help you here. You know, let let’s get him back to where he needs to be.

00:05:06:19 – 00:05:30:24
Tom
Well, because I like with any new people, they don’t know my buttons and therefore I may not really care for what they’re doing to me. And then finally, I’ll say, hold on, let me show you a couple things. Not that we the whole point of the pineapple lifestyle is to experience different types of, experiences.

00:05:30:26 – 00:05:31:13
Bunny
Right?

00:05:31:13 – 00:05:36:11
Tom
And then hopefully we’ll be that, lead off of that and bring it home with us.

00:05:36:12 – 00:05:49:01
Bunny
But we also know that, that when guys aren’t feeling it, that, it tends to. Deter the, the play situation a little bit. So sometimes you need help.

00:05:49:08 – 00:06:14:11
Tom
So one thing that buddy’s been getting a lot of comments on, I haven’t gotten on, but they’ve been coming to funny is a lot of frustrations where their spouse is more into to the other person and not caring about their feelings. Are there at the time level? Yes. Of security.

00:06:14:11 – 00:06:15:08
Bunny
Correct.

00:06:15:10 – 00:06:16:11
Tom
Or safe space?

00:06:16:11 – 00:06:16:22
Bunny
Yeah.

00:06:16:22 – 00:06:19:10
Tom
So like I love using that word.

00:06:19:10 – 00:06:40:26
Bunny
Now this is and I actually have seen it. Yes, I seen it just recently on, on a chat where, one of the, spouses was texting back and forth too much. And even though he was asked to stop, even though he was asked to stop, he still hasn’t.

00:06:40:28 – 00:06:44:14
Tom
And that is that the one where they have a group chat?

00:06:44:18 – 00:06:45:03
Bunny
No.

00:06:45:03 – 00:07:11:11
Tom
Oh, so I saw one today where they have a four way group chat. Our three way group chat. Because it’s, single female and the husband is they were private messaging at first, and then when they started to make plans to meet up, they then added his wife into a group chat. And so that way she was aware.

00:07:11:11 – 00:07:31:12
Tom
So that way, when the husband went out on a date, she was aware of all the plans and everything. Then she found out that they were texting the husband and the other girl, still privately and excluding her. Now we would have a major issue. Oh yeah, one of us did that with the other.

00:07:31:14 – 00:07:36:28
Bunny
And and for me, I mean, for me, that’s just another form of cheating. And I.

00:07:37:04 – 00:07:38:16
Tom
Well, in our eyes.

00:07:38:18 – 00:07:43:29
Bunny
Because it’s a mentally. It doesn’t cheating doesn’t have to just be physical.

00:07:44:02 – 00:07:45:03
Tom
Right.

00:07:45:05 – 00:08:02:00
Bunny
So and I am seeing the lot in and it’s not people that have been in this life for a long time. It’s most of the people that are just starting because they’re so excited and they’re, they’re jumping in with both feet and they’re forgetting that they have a partner with them.

00:08:02:03 – 00:08:03:13
Tom
Right.

00:08:03:15 – 00:08:08:29
Bunny
So they’re like going forward and then they’re like, oh, crap, I pissed off my partner.

00:08:09:06 – 00:08:38:19
Tom
Well, without saying any names, we we seen it happening at hedonism with a couple where they weren’t even together. The female brought the guy and the guy was just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam bam. And it kind of created a wedge because she didn’t feel included in any of his stuff. So, I think she brought the wrong person.

00:08:38:24 – 00:08:40:25
Bunny
Oh, and that happens. That happens. So he’s a.

00:08:40:25 – 00:08:41:23
Tom
Nice enough guy.

00:08:41:23 – 00:08:54:25
Bunny
But but but the fact is, is if you’re married or you have a spouse or a partner or anything, you need to include them in your train of thought.

00:08:54:25 – 00:08:55:13
Tom
Right?

00:08:55:18 – 00:09:06:14
Bunny
So I always, you know, the best thing is, is to talk about scenarios like, if you’re going out to a club, kind of think about what might could possibly happen.

00:09:06:19 – 00:09:27:14
Tom
I mean, you don’t have to overthink it. No, I always say go to the club with the anticipation of nothing’s going to happen except just you and your wife or you and your husband, depending on who’s watching this video, just going and having a good time with no expectations. And if something happens, be prepared.

00:09:27:17 – 00:09:43:12
Bunny
But that’s where I’m saying I know you need to discuss those scenarios. You say we’re going to go have a good time, but if this happens, do we want to go forward, right? How far do we want to go? You need to have those already kind of in your little guideline.

00:09:43:13 – 00:10:00:19
Tom
I know, like, if a single hour couple, What are the signals if we’re not interested and one of us isn’t interested? I mean, always be aware of your partner’s feelings before anybody else’s, right?

00:10:00:19 – 00:10:31:07
Bunny
So one of the scenarios that I had is, there was, a for some going on and every and three of them seem to be having a good time. And the one was just kind of standing out on the outside because he didn’t really know how far it would go and how far he could go. And his wife was having a great time, and then he decided to have intercourse with the other female.

00:10:31:07 – 00:10:32:23
Bunny
And his wife freaked.

00:10:32:23 – 00:10:33:13
Tom
Freaked.

00:10:33:16 – 00:10:34:16
Bunny
Freaked.

00:10:34:19 – 00:10:34:27
Tom
Out.

00:10:35:03 – 00:10:45:20
Bunny
So she was like, no, you were not supposed to do that, right? It was. And it was basically implied it was going to be all about her. But he didn’t know that.

00:10:45:22 – 00:10:48:19
Tom
Well, I mean, I want it to be all about you, but I want to be included.

00:10:48:22 – 00:10:55:17
Bunny
I know, I know, but two days later, she still was not speaking to him. Wow.

00:10:55:19 – 00:11:29:14
Tom
And with that, I and I was telling Barney, you know, the a lot of people do videos TikToks podcast that the pineapple world is less divorces than any other field or any other lifestyle. But first off, there are no statistics. Not one single statistic out there goes specifically out pineapple people. Did you get divorce? Yeah. Okay. Then boom, right?

00:11:29:22 – 00:11:30:16
Tom
No, seriously.

00:11:30:16 – 00:11:31:05
Bunny
I know, I know.

00:11:31:06 – 00:11:57:01
Tom
They claim that they know these statistics out there and there are none. So the fact is, is we ran a club for 20 years. We saw a lot of divorces. Was it because of the lifestyle? Who knows? Who cares? The fact this is we’re thinking that if they did get a divorce, a lot of it was probably just they couldn’t communicate with each other.

00:11:57:03 – 00:12:09:25
Bunny
That’s exactly what it was. Could they even, you know, he was like, every day, come to me and talk to me. And I’m like, you need to talk to her. She’s not talking to me. Well, that’s part of the problem. Because if.

00:12:10:02 – 00:12:11:09
Tom
You’re huge problem.

00:12:11:09 – 00:12:18:04
Bunny
If you’re pissed off at your spouse or your partner, you need to communicate, not just sit there and.

00:12:18:06 – 00:12:26:02
Tom
And guys, take this as a hint. Don’t get so pissed off. You leave your wife at a resort or no by herself.

00:12:26:02 – 00:12:26:22
Bunny
Oh my god.

00:12:26:22 – 00:12:46:06
Tom
Because revenge is real. It’s big. We’ve seen guys get pissed off at their girl leave thinking they’re going to be all macho, and she’s going to come running. Hell no. We seen the girl bang the entire club. And then go home and tell him all about how he screwed up.

00:12:46:08 – 00:12:47:02
Bunny
Yeah. And then.

00:12:47:02 – 00:12:48:04
Tom
They’re divorced.

00:12:48:06 – 00:12:49:26
Bunny
Yeah.

00:12:49:28 – 00:12:54:27
Tom
I’m not laughing about the divorce. I’m not saying it’s just part of life.

00:12:54:29 – 00:12:58:26
Bunny
Well obviously if he left her at the club he left her before.

00:12:59:04 – 00:13:24:04
Tom
Right. And also be careful about fantasies of like having your wife do all these guys, because sometimes the wife can reset you. In the beginning she might be submissive. It might be kind of for it worse. Yeah.

00:13:24:07 – 00:13:31:14
Bunny
But but if your partner says, hey I don’t like this or I don’t want to do this again.

00:13:31:16 – 00:13:33:29
Tom
Everything don’t stop until you talk about it.

00:13:34:00 – 00:13:42:01
Bunny
Right. Don’t try to convince. Don’t try to push the subject, especially that night or that weekend.

00:13:42:03 – 00:13:44:26
Tom
Sorry, I’m looking for our dog.

00:13:44:29 – 00:13:55:21
Bunny
If somebody says that they don’t like something now, it’s not the time to push it. Now. Now is the time to stop it. And we can revisit that later. Go home.

00:13:55:24 – 00:14:11:14
Tom
Yeah, sleep on it. I mean, if you’re, It’s kind of like that drunk person who wants to apologize and become besties again five seconds after a huge argument, right? It’s not the time or place.

00:14:11:16 – 00:14:45:18
Bunny
There are certain scenarios that, yeah, definitely need a little bit of talking out. Need it more than ten minutes sometimes. Yeah. You can be pissed off at each other for quite a while. Right? And don’t don’t let extracurricular or fun time in come in between your yourselves and you know and that was the other thing is I’m hearing a lot in it’s both from male and female that their partner is paying more attention to their play partner than they are.

00:14:45:20 – 00:14:50:05
Tom
I have seen that. And,

00:14:50:07 – 00:15:12:00
Bunny
It’s almost like they come in and they’re like, oh, there’s my friend, and they’re like, gone, right? And they don’t pay attention. They don’t check in on their on their partner to make sure that they’re okay or they’re having a good time and they’re lovey dovey over here. And their partners like this. No. Read that body language. If that’s something that you don’t want.

00:15:12:00 – 00:15:27:22
Bunny
Sorry, I talk with my hands. If that’s something that makes you feel comfortable, you need to let your partner know. And if your partner says this is making me feel uncomfortable, then you need to discuss it, not not just let it roll. Roll off of you.

00:15:27:27 – 00:15:31:24
Tom
No, no, I, I totally I’m I’m hearing you.

00:15:31:27 – 00:15:36:00
Bunny
Because you because we’ve seen it. We’ve seen it a lot.

00:15:36:02 – 00:16:04:21
Tom
And I just, I, just me and Bunny have always been able to communicate. And communication is the key to a successful marriage. Our success a successful time in the pineapple world. Communication is important in life in general. If you can’t, if you cannot openly talk about everything with your spouse. I don’t have any words.

00:16:04:24 – 00:16:05:04
Bunny
No.

00:16:05:09 – 00:16:12:09
Tom
No, I mean, I don’t have any words of encouragement because my encouragement is for you to communicate with your spouse.

00:16:12:11 – 00:16:28:23
Bunny
Absolutely. And communication also means body language. You’ve got to be able to read your partner to write, if there might be a scenario where they’re gagged and you can’t say anything.

00:16:28:25 – 00:16:31:07
Tom
But it’s just, how have you been? Yeah.

00:16:31:10 – 00:16:43:03
Bunny
No, no, no. You know that that would not happen. You are going in the other night. I know I’m going in the other night. I have a bad gag to.

00:16:43:06 – 00:16:44:13
Tom
Spit on that thing.

00:16:44:15 – 00:16:52:24
Bunny
But no, that could be a situation like with Tom, his death. So he’s got to constantly be watching.

00:16:52:25 – 00:16:55:21
Tom
I do, because I take my hearing aids out.

00:16:55:24 – 00:17:01:01
Bunny
And sometimes if he doesn’t get this, like, he doesn’t understand that, I’m like.

00:17:01:04 – 00:17:03:26
Tom
I.

00:17:03:28 – 00:17:29:29
Bunny
But no, you you know your partner well enough that you know when by looking at body language, by looking at expressions that they’re not comfortable and that’s when you need to pay attention. And you need to determine, especially for the ones that are guilty of giving the play partner way much more attention than their other partner. You need to reevaluate if that’s what you really want.

00:17:30:01 – 00:17:34:05
Bunny
Because you keep pushing that level, you’re going to end up in the hole or.

00:17:34:07 – 00:17:36:23
Tom
I’m just letting money talk. This is our topic.

00:17:36:27 – 00:17:41:03
Bunny
This is my topic. I’m not used to just letting money talk.

00:17:41:05 – 00:17:45:26
Tom
I know I’m usually the one talking, but I’m just letting you free flow on this one.

00:17:46:02 – 00:17:52:20
Bunny
Yeah, because I just look at my. It’s like to see the hamster and I’m like, you’re going to fall asleep or no, no, no, no.

00:17:52:20 – 00:18:15:02
Tom
I, I’m actually intrigued because you wanted to talk about this topic because like I said, people don’t approach me on that stuff. They approached Bunny because she’s a female and they feel less threatened or they think, I’m going to charge. I mean, I don’t charge anybody, but me and Bunny are always willing to help everybody. We don’t want to see anyone break up or.

00:18:15:08 – 00:18:16:02
Bunny
You know, have a.

00:18:16:02 – 00:18:20:01
Tom
Divorce. But we also don’t want to see somebody ruin a marriage either.

00:18:20:07 – 00:18:21:12
Bunny
No, absolutely.

00:18:21:12 – 00:18:45:26
Tom
Not, ma’am, but we are 38 years married. 39 years together. We were always told in the pineapple world that it would break us up. We’d be jealous. And yeah, we’ve had our share of jealousies and everything. We just talk, we communicate. I mean, I just can’t express it enough. That communication.

00:18:45:28 – 00:18:47:07
Bunny
You know,

00:18:47:10 – 00:18:48:09
Tom
I had to get that word out.

00:18:48:10 – 00:19:14:27
Bunny
Yes, yes, I was talking to somebody, last October, and, I was talking to another gentleman, and, and we were talking about that same scenario, and I said, I said, you know, Tom and I have been together 38 years, and I still get jealous. And he goes, do you get jealous or do you get envious? And I’m like, excuse me?

00:19:15:00 – 00:19:24:13
Bunny
He’s like, are you jealous that he’s really having a good time? Or are you envious that he’s having a good time and you’re not?

00:19:24:16 – 00:19:25:26
Tom
That’s her great.

00:19:25:28 – 00:19:30:28
Bunny
And I’m like, you’re absolutely right. You’re absolutely right.

00:19:31:00 – 00:19:32:02
Tom
No.

00:19:32:04 – 00:19:39:06
Bunny
So so yeah, you got to think is a jealous or is envious. And that’s when I say, fine, I’m going to take my ball and go home.

00:19:39:06 – 00:19:43:23
Tom
Yep. And she takes me home.

00:19:43:25 – 00:20:06:07
Bunny
But I was like, yeah you’re that it that I was like after all these years? I said, you know what? That kind of slapped me in the head. That was like a an eye opener because, yeah, your absolutely right. And he goes, because of the fact is you’re not jealous. You’re still having a good time, but you’re envious because you know what she’s getting and that you like getting that.

00:20:06:12 – 00:20:07:23
Bunny
And you’re not right now.

00:20:07:25 – 00:20:10:18
Tom
I’ll say that’s true.

00:20:10:20 – 00:20:12:02
Bunny
Right? Yeah.

00:20:12:04 – 00:20:15:06
Tom
Yeah, I’ll say that. That’s 1,000% true.

00:20:15:25 – 00:20:33:11
Tom
Because you know when you, when you go meet up with people whether it’s single a couple, you don’t know what you’re going to get until you’re right. I mean these pictures with Coke cans and remote controls, you don’t know if it’s the tiny remote or the.

00:20:33:13 – 00:20:35:08
Bunny
Big, big remote.

00:20:35:11 – 00:21:04:23
Tom
You don’t know if it’s the little six ounce cans of soda or the 12 ounce cans or the the 16. But it’s just, I mean, yeah. I, I totally get that. I mean, I, I’ve been with females where they are more pillow princesses. Yes. And so I’ll use the word envious. I’m envious that the other guy has you and I am.

00:21:04:25 – 00:21:08:20
Bunny
Trying to do everything under the sun to help.

00:21:08:22 – 00:21:12:19
Tom
Yeah, I guess I feel neglected.

00:21:12:21 – 00:21:13:07
Bunny
See?

00:21:13:12 – 00:21:13:25
Tom
See?

00:21:13:27 – 00:21:14:19
Bunny
Yeah, yeah.

00:21:14:20 – 00:21:15:25
Tom
So I get it.

00:21:15:28 – 00:21:22:20
Bunny
Yeah, but that was an eye opener. I’m like, whoa, okay. That was that was a good one that he brought up.

00:21:22:23 – 00:21:25:13
Tom
So you’re no longer jealous. You’re just envious.

00:21:25:16 – 00:21:35:13
Bunny
Yes, absolutely. But I think if Tom went out on a date, I, I would be so jealous.

00:21:35:14 – 00:21:37:00
Tom
Oh, you’d be a stalker.

00:21:37:03 – 00:21:37:16
Bunny
I think.

00:21:37:18 – 00:21:39:09
Tom
Following us and.

00:21:39:12 – 00:21:40:24
Bunny
That is way beyond.

00:21:40:24 – 00:21:45:16
Tom
I look over my shoulder to be tucked down, looking at. Yeah. No, that would be funny.

00:21:45:19 – 00:21:49:15
Bunny
I would yeah, that’s way beyond my comfort zone.

00:21:49:17 – 00:22:13:18
Tom
But yeah, we see, it happens all the time. I mean, a lot of events, even people were close with we we never say anything because it’s not our place unless they ask us. Because we don’t interject ourselves into other people’s lives. Except for here on video. And you’re willing you’re able to hit stop or close out the window.

00:22:13:18 – 00:22:41:13
Tom
You don’t have to watch us or listen to us, but we see a lot of people where they put a lot more focus on their play partner than they do their own spouse. We just seen a, couple of events ago, and a whole like, dating scenario where, I mean, me, I’m funny after 39 years, we want to be this close to each other.

00:22:41:13 – 00:22:57:28
Tom
We work together, we live together. We are this close together, believe it or not, 23 to 24 hours a day, every day, seven days a week, all year long. We’re really not apart, and we prefer not to be.

00:22:58:03 – 00:23:01:08
Bunny
The only time we’re part is when we’re in the restroom.

00:23:01:10 – 00:23:35:15
Tom
That’s the only time we’re apart. But we’re still within yelling range. Yeah, but, I, I couldn’t if we are. I mean, if we’re friends with another couple. Yeah, we’re totally good. Don’t don’t take it out of context that we can pal around and hang on to the other person and do fun stuff, but if it comes down to just intimately holding hands, are acting like you’re the couple and not.

00:23:35:17 – 00:23:49:07
Tom
Yeah, me and Bonnie, that that’s just a different scenario for us. But we have a lot of friends where we can paddle around with each other, and we just don’t. We don’t get envious. Whoa, whoa. Going rooster block each other. No problem.

00:23:49:09 – 00:24:03:09
Bunny
Yep. Absolutely. But yeah. So that’s just the biggest thing is keep your eyes open, keep your mind open and keep keep an eye on your partner too. And make sure that they’re within the loop.

00:24:03:09 – 00:24:52:10
Tom
And and people can lose interest in each other if you’re not showing, the other one the attention that they. Oh that they deserve or need. I was just telling somebody and I know where I talked about the divorcing. We have an album in our Facebook and we had 109 couples and people whenever they say, oh yeah, the divorce rate is so low in the lifestyle because it’s statistically proven, because you can communicate that no, divorcing emotions can also create huge issues, because when you have an emotional attachment, someone else that your spouse can’t compete with.

00:24:52:12 – 00:25:12:16
Tom
Correct. But I go, I went, I I’ll pull up that photo album and I like see these couples see these couples, they look happy, right? They’re like yeah, yeah, yeah. All 75% of our divorce. 75%. And like I said earlier we don’t know if it’s because of the lifestyle and it could be any number of reasons.

00:25:12:21 – 00:25:26:15
Tom
But it probably all boils down to a common denominator of lack of feeling. The other ones are like a lack of interest or no communication, passion or no sexual desires or.

00:25:26:19 – 00:25:28:05
Bunny
Right. Absolutely.

00:25:28:07 – 00:25:43:10
Tom
And and at 39 years, we still think that you should be desiring each other sexually, as you did when you were dating. Because when you were dating, the focus, honestly, was to get laid right?

00:25:43:13 – 00:25:44:06
Bunny
Exactly.

00:25:44:06 – 00:25:59:29
Tom
It was to find your soulmate. It was to find a compatibility factor. That’s where I never understood. No sex before marriage. Because then you’re kind of stuck. And there’s a lot of divorces. Are that because.

00:26:00:03 – 00:26:00:22
Bunny
Oh, yeah.

00:26:00:24 – 00:26:08:24
Tom
They didn’t measure up to each other’s, what they thought would be like.

00:26:08:26 – 00:26:12:12
Bunny
No, I, I completely get that. Yeah I completely.

00:26:12:12 – 00:26:41:02
Tom
Get that the whole hot wife thing, it works for some people and I, we’ve seen it not work for a lot of people. So hot wife thing is something we would never recommend. If someone does it that’s fine. We have no issues with it. But we would never try to talk anyone into it, nor would we recommend it, because I don’t think a lot of people could handle that scenario well.

00:26:41:02 – 00:26:56:05
Bunny
And the fact is, is if, you if you really think that your wife wants to do it, then you really need to make sure that she really wants to do it. Because we met some men and he was just a narcissist, and he basically forced her to do it.

00:26:56:06 – 00:26:59:22
Tom
Yes. And I mean, he was literally calling guys.

00:26:59:22 – 00:27:01:06
Bunny
And she.

00:27:01:06 – 00:27:15:17
Tom
And he even asked us because we were meeting them. And next thing you know, he’s like, hey, do you mind if I have a couple singles come over and nail or why, why you guys are here? And I’m like, no, dude, we’re out of here.

00:27:15:18 – 00:27:19:09
Bunny
He got off on it. She hated it. Yeah, she she.

00:27:19:12 – 00:27:23:29
Tom
Tries to take her out of there and I’m like, I didn’t know what to do in that scenario.

00:27:24:04 – 00:27:46:21
Bunny
She said, I am leaving him, I feel used I don’t want to do this. So you’ve got to make sure you’re both on the same level. Yeah. And if think I’m like, I just can’t reiterate the fact of the feelings change. If you don’t want to do it, then you need to stand up and say, I don’t like this, I don’t want to do this anymore.

00:27:46:24 – 00:27:52:11
Bunny
And then your partner should respect you in figure things out.

00:27:52:12 – 00:28:21:19
Tom
Well, the whole thing about the, pineapple world is compromises. Somebody has a fantasy and it’s, I mean, hopefully you can let your spouse live out their fantasies. That’s the whole, point of including other people into your life because some fantasies require more than one person and yes, a person not willing to do things that your spouse isn’t willing to do.

00:28:21:19 – 00:28:31:05
Bunny
Well, and also, two fantasies can be just in your head. In reality, is a good slap kick in the nuts.

00:28:31:07 – 00:28:54:27
Tom
Now, we’ve seen people break up because they, one of them had all these wild fantasies and they came true and they couldn’t handle it. They wanted nothing to do with the other person, and it was their fantasies that backfired on them. And they were the ones disgusted with the other one for helping fulfill those fantasies. How messed up is that?

00:28:54:28 – 00:29:05:11
Bunny
Oh yeah. Yeah. Let’s go back into the narcissist there. Yeah. But. So no. Yeah. It’s a very, very fine line. I think.

00:29:05:13 – 00:29:06:00
Tom
I’m pulling up my.

00:29:06:00 – 00:29:18:00
Bunny
Glasses. But not only is it that fine line, but like you say, it’s just that communication. You’ve got to communicate it. Just make this pineapple world fun. It’s fun as you can.

00:29:18:05 – 00:29:18:16
Tom
If you’re.

00:29:18:16 – 00:29:20:04
Bunny
Not. It’s supposed to be.

00:29:20:09 – 00:29:39:25
Tom
Yeah. If you’re not having fun, if you if you can’t go out and without having something to do with someone else, it may come back to haunt you later. Like, remember that your spouse is the most important person like Tom.

00:29:39:25 – 00:30:07:10
Bunny
And I say we are very, very social pineapple people. So for us it’s just a matter of going out, having fun, flirting, harmlessly, flirting. If it leads to something, then that’s great. If not, then we’ve value a friendship. We are now part of the community. Well, we’re not having. I mean, we’re having fun, but we’re not meeting the people that we want to meet.

00:30:07:13 – 00:30:14:20
Bunny
So now we’re looking for pineapple first. Yeah. So we can go out and have fun with people. We like to have fun with.

00:30:14:21 – 00:30:16:15
Tom
Pineapple people are just more fun to be.

00:30:16:18 – 00:30:33:08
Bunny
They are much more fun to be around. You don’t have to worry about. You don’t have to worry about, offending somebody because you’re wearing a too low kind of a shirt or. Or you can go on a Jeep ride with wearing them side boob shirt without.

00:30:33:10 – 00:30:33:28
Tom
Without no.

00:30:33:28 – 00:30:36:10
Bunny
Bra with a right. Exactly.

00:30:36:10 – 00:31:05:23
Tom
No. It’s true, because, I just put up a thing, because we’re going to go to cheap and base and, and, Pigeon Forge and, August. Yep. And it’s going to be all through Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg. And this last year there was like 50,000 shapes star expecting more this year they say to go a mile. It might take you an hour to two hours because it’s just it’s a slow crawl and we’re looking forward to that.

00:31:06:01 – 00:31:28:07
Tom
So I and all these people are posting, like, we have a solid black tie, so they’re doing a black T meet up and they’re going to take a big picture. All the black tips I did. You see the pink Jeep meet up? I didn’t realize there were hundreds of them. And there’s just a big picture with it.

00:31:28:07 – 00:31:32:00
Tom
Looks like a thousand pink jeeps all in one picture.

00:31:32:01 – 00:31:35:07
Bunny
I might have to be in a gray jeep next year.

00:31:35:09 – 00:31:36:25
Tom
A gray t.

00:31:36:28 – 00:31:41:16
Bunny
Told you if I. If I get a Jeep, what I’m doing with it.

00:31:41:18 – 00:31:43:15
Tom
What are you doing with it?

00:31:43:17 – 00:31:45:01
Bunny
Putting thumper on it.

00:31:45:01 – 00:32:13:17
Tom
Oh. So, there there were people about the red jeeps and white, every jeep color. And then somebody goes, is there going to be a singles meet up? And I thought, well, that’s a great idea, because mostly it’s a lot of it’s going to be families. So I found if you’re familiar or not on the Jeep, they have trail badges and you earn them.

00:32:13:22 – 00:32:39:25
Tom
But there was, an upside down pineapple with horns and a tail and it just says plays well with the others. 4×4. And I posted that I didn’t think it was going to get approved because this is a very family friendly Facebook group. And it two weeks later, all of a sudden it popped up, approved. I was like, oh my God, there’s like seven, almost 18,000 profiles in here.

00:32:39:28 – 00:33:10:28
Tom
I’m like, I am either going to get slaughtered or so immediately I got 150 either likes hearts are laughing emojis. I got a couple of angry emojis. I got three comments, that were negative. One is, really this community has dole out those people in it and I’m thinking, you know, look around at all your friends, family, coworkers, people you sit next to in church.

00:33:11:00 – 00:33:48:22
Tom
You probably know pineapple people and not realize it because we don’t just come out, we know how to act well. Most of us know how to act normal. Yeah. And, social environment. A lot of the comments are pretty good and people are sharing it. People are tagging it, and there’s, vendor who’s going to be selling little cheat badges, and they have one that says, upside down pineapple, if you know, you know, and they’re like 25 bucks, I’m like, I might have to buy one.

00:33:48:22 – 00:34:10:04
Tom
I don’t want to put it on my Jeep, but, I just thought to support that and I was talking to her. She’s not in the lifestyle, but I committed her for producing stuff that would be promotable or sellable to other people that aren’t. Are not her demographic.

00:34:10:04 – 00:34:10:16
Bunny
Correct?

00:34:10:19 – 00:34:23:24
Tom
Mostly the coins are challenge. Coins are military, police, firemen, first responders. So it’s kind of cool to see an actual, real, bona fide upside down pineapple.

00:34:23:26 – 00:34:25:05
Bunny
Exactly.

00:34:25:07 – 00:34:57:04
Tom
Badge. So, we’ll get that. But I was talking to her, and I was telling her, I said, you know, probably 20% of that group is in the pineapple lifestyle somehow. Because in California, they did a study, the local news, and they went around surveying people. And it came out that 1 in 4 couples admitted to at least trying something in the pineapple world one time.

00:34:57:06 – 00:35:08:07
Tom
They didn’t ask any father. So that meant if you walk your neighborhood and count 100 houses, 25 possibly could be pineapple people.

00:35:08:07 – 00:35:08:18
Bunny
Yep.

00:35:08:21 – 00:35:20:03
Tom
You go to your work, you got 100 people that work in your office. 25 could be pineapple people. I know if you’re a police officer, it’s probably 85%.

00:35:20:05 – 00:35:21:02
Bunny
School teacher, a.

00:35:21:02 – 00:35:38:18
Tom
School teachers, nurses. But I mean, different lines of work are going to accumulate that 25% down. But that also goes for churches. I mean, the the moral majority aren’t so moral when they keep a secret like this.

00:35:38:21 – 00:35:49:11
Bunny
Did you see the the one going around now that there was some type of a list and it says the most swingers per capita is Pennsylvania?

00:35:49:12 – 00:35:55:16
Tom
Oh, I the one that say that. Yeah. And well, but they didn’t even put California on there.

00:35:55:16 – 00:35:55:29
Bunny
No.

00:35:55:29 – 00:36:19:08
Tom
So they’re skewed I mean, and I even post I even wrote to you that you could tell they were non pineapple people who did it just by the way. They were a few things. They, they were very naive or trying to be just a plain where someone like us would have wrote the list and yeah, got a little more definitive on it.

00:36:19:10 – 00:36:41:01
Tom
But when I told this girl who is going to be selling these batches about the pineapple world, she goes, oh my God. My friend basically said word for word, what? You just said that there’s going to be 20% of this group that would buy that batch and stuff like that. They might not put it on their cheap, but they might keep it at home.

00:36:41:04 – 00:37:06:01
Tom
We want to make a pact for with different cheap batches, and that would be one of them. And then she asked me to take it off, because I did promote it, that she was going to be selling them. So she must have gotten a little pushback. And, you know, I don’t I don’t, disagree with her wanting, me to know my post because I don’t want anyone to be dark.

00:37:06:03 – 00:37:06:16
Bunny
No.

00:37:06:16 – 00:37:08:28
Tom
And she wasn’t even in the pineapple.

00:37:08:28 – 00:37:33:11
Bunny
And that’s what I disagree with, because everybody has a right to their own business. Everybody has a right to make money, whether, it’s selling that or selling a set of tires. Right. And that’s where I just get so frustrated with people out there in the community that are so hateful towards another group of individuals.

00:37:33:11 – 00:37:42:17
Tom
Yeah. And that group of individuals, they just have a stigma in their head about that, group of individuals.

00:37:42:17 – 00:37:42:28
Bunny
Right.

00:37:43:01 – 00:37:52:25
Tom
But the fact is that group of individuals is a more honest group. They’re more they they’re more caring about other people.

00:37:52:28 – 00:37:54:23
Bunny
They’re the first ones to jump up.

00:37:54:27 – 00:37:58:00
Tom
To paint our house in California.

00:37:58:02 – 00:37:58:21
Bunny
Yeah.

00:37:58:24 – 00:38:14:22
Tom
And we are just talking about it, man. But we’re going to paint it by ourselves. And we have like ten people. So, ready to work. I mean, not to socialize. They were pushed. Let’s do, let’s do one day start to finish prime, paint it.

00:38:14:24 – 00:38:33:12
Bunny
And then when we moved to when we bought our house in California, we were moving 80 miles away and we didn’t know where are we going to put all of our stuff. And somebody just randomly called us, we made, maybe once or twice and, he’s like, I got this property, I’ve got this, I’ve got that.

00:38:33:12 – 00:38:36:11
Bunny
You can. You’re more than welcome to park your trailers here.

00:38:36:13 – 00:38:37:01
Tom
Yeah.

00:38:37:03 – 00:38:45:20
Bunny
I mean, just out of the blue. So our community is so much more helpful and is so much more caring, I think, than most any of the other.

00:38:45:20 – 00:39:10:15
Tom
And we don’t have no judgments. And that’s the difference between the pineapple world, where there are a lot of people that I know. We’re totally off topic because we’re done with the other topic. I think. But there’s a lot of people that go to pineapple clubs and events, even hedonists, there’s a lot of nudist, there’s a lot of people that want to wear their bottoms and no tops.

00:39:10:20 – 00:39:25:22
Tom
There’s people that want to be naked, there’s people that want to play with others and that everyone gets along because, you know, if someone comes up and says, hey, do you want to play? All you guys says, no. Well, I’m not into that, but thank you. Take it as a compliment.

00:39:25:22 – 00:39:26:21
Bunny
But it’s basically.

00:39:26:22 – 00:39:27:06
Tom
Is,

00:39:27:09 – 00:39:37:27
Bunny
We’re all in the same mindset of just want to have fun and meet people, right? And enjoy everybody’s.

00:39:37:29 – 00:39:52:10
Bunny
Being around people and have fun. But socialize. Yeah. The socializing and, yeah, there’s people outside. They’re so closed minded that they won’t even think of anything beyond you’re having sex with somebody else.

00:39:52:13 – 00:40:08:08
Tom
Right? And then that goes along with it. And I guess I will add into the topic of this. When we see people that focus on someone more than their own spouse, me and Bunny actually avoid both of them.

00:40:09:20 – 00:40:24:29
Tom
Because we just don’t want drama. And most people in the pineapple world, they’re, they want to be drama free. And we, we want to have fun. We want to smile. We don’t want to be the shoulder that they’re always crying on or talking about.

00:40:25:00 – 00:40:30:22
Bunny
Correct? Very correct. Yep. All right I think we’re done with this one.

00:40:30:22 – 00:40:31:23
Tom
We are done.

00:40:31:24 – 00:40:33:09
Bunny
We are done with you.

00:40:33:11 – 00:40:57:15
Tom
We’re done with you today. So until next time, definitely follow us everywhere. Just search Google, Tom and Bunny all one word. Tom and boo and and y and book your next trip with Tom’s trips.com your leader in adult lifestyle travel and let us further let us show you a good time.

00:40:57:18 – 00:41:00:02
Bunny
You got that right. We’ll see you.

00:41:00:02 – 00:41:02:00
Tom
Soon. We’ll see you soon.

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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:22:25
Tom
Hey, everyone. Tom and Bunny here and I know we're getting ready to watch our next video. And if you find this video useful or some of the videos from the past, please do us a favor by booking your travel through us at Tom's trips.com, or give us a call at 1-800-285-0853 and I can answer any questions and get you booked on your next lifestyle vacation.

00:00:22:25 - 00:00:38:23
Tom
Welcome to Tom and bunny.com. Here is another episode of our Opinions Mean Nothing and Pineapple World. But it might give you some guidance on helping you navigate this. I mean, wide open lifestyle.

00:00:38:24 - 00:00:42:15
Bunny
It's so completely different than when we started. Yeah, so completely different.

00:00:42:16 - 00:01:06:25
Tom
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00:01:06:27 - 00:01:07:16
Bunny
Of course.

00:01:07:17 - 00:01:08:16
Tom
That is our motto.

00:01:08:19 - 00:01:12:03
Bunny
That is, Will you look a little tropical later? I know.

00:01:12:08 - 00:01:14:24
Tom
I know, our last video I was wearing.

00:01:14:27 - 00:01:17:14
Bunny
yeah. Ray. Hawaii. You must have gone shopping.

00:01:17:15 - 00:01:19:28
Tom
We must have gone. So I'm in a medium.

00:01:20:01 - 00:01:25:03
Bunny
I know, I know a medium. Oh, wow.

00:01:25:05 - 00:01:25:25
Tom
Don't be a hater.

00:01:25:25 - 00:01:28:12
Bunny
You've never been a medium.

00:01:28:14 - 00:01:29:15
Tom
Don't be a hater.

00:01:29:18 - 00:01:30:23
Bunny
I know, right?

00:01:30:28 - 00:01:33:02
Tom
I was going into double extra large.

00:01:33:04 - 00:01:34:13
Bunny
I know, I know you were.

00:01:34:20 - 00:01:47:03
Tom
I went from 238 pounds to. I'm now about 160. And oh I saw so on notice. Okay. Someone calling you who's calling.

00:01:47:03 - 00:01:48:06
Bunny
Spam spam.

00:01:48:07 - 00:02:04:08
Tom
Spam potential spam. So anyway we get we get asked a lot of questions. So this video we're going to focus on one of the questions that we get asked a lot. What is the question.

00:02:04:10 - 00:02:05:27
Bunny
How do you play.

00:02:05:29 - 00:02:08:01
Tom
And what's the meaning of that. How do we play.

00:02:08:01 - 00:02:37:25
Bunny
Well they you know, we give a little more information. All right. So the in this our pineapple world has grown and expanded so much from what it did 20 years ago. Yes. And so many different people are seek other different options. Correct. So they actually asked how how do we approach it. and do we separate room, do we go on dates.

00:02:37:27 - 00:02:39:28
Bunny
do we go out alone.

00:02:40:00 - 00:02:53:19
Tom
So we when we first got into the pineapple world and we got into a lot longer a long time ago before the pineapples were even invented in this lifestyle.

00:02:53:19 - 00:02:54:20
Bunny
Yes.

00:02:54:22 - 00:03:06:17
Tom
I know some people want to believe that they came out in the 50s and it was a military thing. And we cannot establish that from anybody. That's over the I mean.

00:03:06:25 - 00:03:09:08
Bunny
Even well into their 70s, 80, 80.

00:03:09:08 - 00:03:09:26
Tom
90.

00:03:09:26 - 00:03:10:04
Bunny
Yeah.

00:03:10:05 - 00:03:11:09
Tom
We can't find anyone.

00:03:11:10 - 00:03:17:07
Bunny
And yes, we do know people that old that are that had run clubs are still in the lifestyle.

00:03:17:11 - 00:03:38:13
Tom
So we did a lot of talking when we first got into it. And one of our laundry list of rules that we narrowed down to, we what we do is we create and I will use the word rules, but it's not I don't know what a good word to use here is, but.

00:03:38:15 - 00:03:39:04
Bunny
boundary.

00:03:39:05 - 00:03:53:21
Tom
Boundaries. That's a great word. so we, we create boundaries based on previous experiences, meaning we found ourselves because we came into this with.

00:03:53:23 - 00:03:57:01
Bunny
Page, like a book. you.

00:03:57:01 - 00:04:18:28
Tom
Can't do this. You can't do that. You can't even look at someone too long. You can't have too much fun. there was just so many things that we were enjoying. Nothing. It was to the point where it wasn't even worth doing because we neither of us were having fun. Because we're too worried about breaking a boundary.

00:04:19:00 - 00:04:19:26
Bunny
Absolutely.

00:04:19:26 - 00:04:24:27
Tom
Are offending the other person are hurting the other person. The last thing we want to do is hurt each other.

00:04:24:29 - 00:04:47:13
Bunny
And, and yes in the beginning we did break boundaries and in the night it didn't end well because we broke boundaries. And guess what. You have to go home. You have to discuss it, you have to talk it over and you got to work through it and either you continue on with that in the pineapple world or you step back.

00:04:47:13 - 00:05:28:03
Tom
And so we eliminated all of our roles as we called them, back them. And we created boundaries of respect based on prior experiences. So how do we play when we are active with other people? Afterwards we come home. We actually discuss after every encounter. We still discuss every encounter, and we want to know what we liked about it, because the whole point of being in this is because we're having a great time and we we want to enjoy it.

00:05:28:05 - 00:05:53:23
Tom
but the most important thing and it never is a requirement. But if there was something that we did not like, it didn't sit well. We felt the green eyed monster coming on. We discussed it more, and if it was something that was really, truly an issue, we would create a boundary based on that is go. Nothing else, just that scope.

00:05:53:25 - 00:05:59:09
Tom
And later on we might even release that boundary because we've grown up.

00:05:59:23 - 00:06:01:08
Tom
Yeah. And grown past.

00:06:01:13 - 00:06:02:26
Bunny
That. Yeah.

00:06:02:27 - 00:06:13:25
Tom
Because yeah everyone gets jealous in this lifestyle. So a couple of our boundaries is we prefer to play with couples.

00:06:13:27 - 00:06:14:16
Bunny
Yes.

00:06:14:19 - 00:06:30:19
Tom
We don't prefer to play with couples that only one plays. We want everyone active. We would prefer just to be wingman and friends. We could be friends with everybody. It doesn't matter. Well, not everybody. We who? We haven't.

00:06:30:19 - 00:06:31:10
Bunny
Come new.

00:06:31:17 - 00:06:40:20
Tom
We have encountered a few that they tested our limits and we couldn't. We didn't want to hang out with them.

00:06:40:23 - 00:06:43:08
Bunny
They were way,

00:06:43:10 - 00:07:15:02
Tom
Different than we were. So, same room. We we have we we've we've tried to separate play, but the whole point of us being in it is for us to have fun together. Now we get it, other people will play separately and everything, and that's perfectly fine. Some people get stage fright or they get, antsy because their spouses watching, or whatever.

00:07:15:05 - 00:07:31:13
Tom
We actually prefer it because Bunny, I mean, knowing my history of Eddie since I was in my 20s, Bunny can cue in and see if I was struggling or not. If she wasn't there, I'd be on my own.

00:07:31:13 - 00:07:33:17
Bunny
Yeah, yeah. And you're hearing.

00:07:33:25 - 00:07:34:22
Tom
Am I hearing.

00:07:34:22 - 00:07:58:16
Bunny
Because, with his hearing aids, he can't do any he doesn't play with his hearing aids. And because of the fact is you put your hands over his head and of course, he's going to start whistling. So he never, never does anything with his hearing aids in, in. Therefore, he was always afraid of hearing the word stop and not being able to hear it right now.

00:07:58:18 - 00:08:18:21
Tom
I would just tell the female if, if I'm doing something that you don't want or like, or you're not enjoying, don't tell me. Just put your hand on my forehead and push me back. I will take offense to that. No, that's it's called, an unsaid body language.

00:08:18:22 - 00:08:19:27
Bunny
Well, I have to do it to him.

00:08:19:28 - 00:08:20:26
Tom
She does it to me.

00:08:20:26 - 00:08:22:22
Bunny
Yeah, well, it's time to stop.

00:08:22:24 - 00:09:02:22
Tom
She starts tapping me. Now, another boundary that we have, and we know a lot of couples like doing is the whole holding hands with the opposite person while they're out at dinner, sitting with the with the other person. Me and binding prefer to be together all the way up until any activity starts. We do not want to be part of the other people, because when we're out in public, we want to be seen as Tom and Bonnie.

00:09:02:24 - 00:09:09:12
Tom
it's nothing against anybody. It's just kind of our comfort zone, or at least my comfort zone.

00:09:09:13 - 00:09:32:20
Bunny
Exactly. So we all, everybody does everything different and, and you know, we have had those couples say, well here Bonnie will sit here and I'm like, no, I won't. I mean, I sit with Tom and you've got it. If somebody does something and you're not on, come. If you're uncomfortable with you, just tell them, hey, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that.

00:09:32:22 - 00:09:34:08
Bunny
Right. you.

00:09:34:08 - 00:09:35:18
Tom
Don't have to be so abrupt, Pike.

00:09:35:18 - 00:09:40:04
Bunny
Funny was. I know. Well, I did, I.

00:09:40:04 - 00:09:47:02
Tom
Know, but you don't have to be that abrupt. You could be polite and just say, well, I would rather preferably sit here.

00:09:47:10 - 00:09:50:14
Bunny
Well, I do like that you don't.

00:09:50:17 - 00:09:55:17
Tom
You're setting up a date. You're meeting someone for their first time, and they say, oh, buddy, I'll sit here. Oh, no, I will.

00:09:55:23 - 00:09:58:17
Bunny
Nope.

00:09:58:20 - 00:10:02:11
Tom
That's the way it came across to me. You can chime in and if you.

00:10:02:13 - 00:10:03:00
Bunny
Well, how.

00:10:03:00 - 00:10:05:05
Tom
Did that come across? I mean.

00:10:05:07 - 00:10:10:11
Bunny
I probably did. Come on. Like she's a bitch, but she's real.

00:10:10:11 - 00:10:11:14
Tom
Like she's really not, though.

00:10:11:15 - 00:10:21:17
Bunny
Maybe that's why the hookup has been slow down, but I actually did. We actually met this morning. Couple one time and and we chatted back and forth online.

00:10:21:17 - 00:10:36:07
Tom
Now we must put a little warning. You may or may not be the couple we're talking about. Just because it resonates or sounds familiar doesn't mean we're talking about you. But we might be talking about you. So just having all those out there.

00:10:36:09 - 00:10:38:09
Bunny
Because we get called out, you do, we.

00:10:38:10 - 00:10:47:11
Tom
Do we do get called out for talking about scenarios even when we don't mention the people's names, our location, they know we're talking about them and they'll message us.

00:10:47:11 - 00:10:48:10
Bunny
All right, so I know.

00:10:48:10 - 00:10:48:27
Tom
There you go.

00:10:48:27 - 00:11:15:14
Bunny
Sorry. I'm just going to say that we're going to an event across the country. And we had been chatting back and forth with this couple online, and everything seemed to be working out very, very well. we met them in the hotel the first day and they seemed really, really great. Well, then we go out for the evening and he just, like, turn turned into.

00:11:15:15 - 00:11:16:20
Bunny
He's going to control me.

00:11:16:23 - 00:11:17:25
Tom
Yeah. This.

00:11:18:02 - 00:11:19:20
Bunny
And he was like.

00:11:19:23 - 00:11:30:04
Tom
But he's her own person. She doesn't need to be dominated. Well not not like like verbally dominating.

00:11:30:05 - 00:11:33:16
Bunny
Well and if I'm going to answer to anybody, it's my husband.

00:11:33:18 - 00:11:34:22
Tom
Damn right.

00:11:34:24 - 00:11:36:26
Bunny
Damn right. And, you.

00:11:36:26 - 00:11:37:06
Tom
Know, your.

00:11:37:06 - 00:11:40:05
Bunny
Place and he was like, literally.

00:11:40:11 - 00:11:44:01
Tom
I could see the people, like, what did he just say?

00:11:44:03 - 00:12:09:04
Bunny
At one point he was like, literally like turning me so no one else would, like, see me. It was almost like he should have just peed on my back so people would know that I was. Yeah. And then and then he didn't like the first bar. So Tom says, okay, well, we'll go somewhere else. Then we sit down in the second bar and he looks, I remember this, and he looks at me and he grabs my hand.

00:12:09:04 - 00:12:12:29
Bunny
He goes, we're leaving. And I'm like, grabs Bonnie's hand.

00:12:13:01 - 00:12:14:08
Tom
His wife's here.

00:12:14:09 - 00:12:17:13
Bunny
I go, no, I am not leaving.

00:12:17:15 - 00:12:19:15
Tom
We let him leave with his wife.

00:12:19:17 - 00:12:21:21
Bunny
I go, if you want to leave, you can leave.

00:12:21:25 - 00:12:22:18
Tom
We're fine.

00:12:22:18 - 00:12:28:14
Bunny
Here. We we like it. We're having a good time. You can leave. And they didn't. They never spoke to us. The rest of the.

00:12:28:16 - 00:12:30:22
Tom
I don't think the wife wanted to leave him.

00:12:30:25 - 00:12:59:29
Bunny
But which? Which was totally fine. Because, like Tom said, I'm my own person. I'm strong enough to tell somebody. No. Why? I don't like it. Right. but like I said, we are not in a Bdsm lifestyle whatsoever, Tom and I, I said, but really, if if you really watch this, I am so much more submissive. to Tom, but only to Tom, not to anybody else.

00:13:00:02 - 00:13:06:10
Bunny
Right? So, no, you've got it. You've got to set your boundaries for yourself and do what's comfortable for you.

00:13:06:11 - 00:13:12:20
Tom
Yeah. yeah, I that was I remember that when that was.

00:13:12:22 - 00:13:18:18
Bunny
Yeah. That that little date that he had planned last lasted less than an hour.

00:13:18:20 - 00:13:23:04
Tom
Yeah. After chatting. So that leads up. We chatted with them for a long time.

00:13:23:05 - 00:13:23:18
Bunny
We did.

00:13:23:18 - 00:13:46:04
Tom
And we're not just pointing out this couple, this can go on with many other couples, and especially if you're new to this argument, if you've been in this for a while and you're frustrated or anything to build up, some people go, oh, we got to have a build up before we meet. No, because sometimes the expectation doesn't match.

00:13:46:04 - 00:14:11:21
Tom
Yes, the reality. So we would rather not sext. We would just rather meet people and keep any personal, stuff, fun time stuff at that moment. I mean, we could talk about what we're into because, yeah, some people may or may not be into what you're into.

00:14:11:22 - 00:14:26:14
Bunny
Yeah, you do have to discuss that. She's sound asleep at my feet. You do have to discuss stuff like that. But, But like Tom said, I'm not going to do anything with somebody else that I don't do with Tom. Right. So we're going to.

00:14:26:17 - 00:14:28:18
Tom
Well, that's not true.

00:14:28:21 - 00:14:30:29
Bunny
Well, no. Mean, because.

00:14:30:29 - 00:14:56:14
Tom
I am not even including interested in the Bdsm lifestyle. The fetish lifestyle. None of it. I'm okay with it. We're friends with a lot of people were we could hang out. We'll go to certain scenarios. Dungeons or fetish parties. We're fine with that. I just don't I don't want it on me and I don't want to put it on that somebody else.

00:14:56:19 - 00:14:58:29
Tom
So I'm more of a just a people watcher.

00:14:59:25 - 00:15:30:22
Tom
Bunny. She will get into it a little bit. Yeah. the since sensory play you're flogging stuff like that. Me personally, I don't even like Bunny. I, I don't do none of that stuff. So when we go to events, if there's somebody that is doing something and she finds it interesting, we'll go over and talk to them and they'll end up usually tying Bunny up and.

00:15:30:25 - 00:15:31:10
Bunny
Right.

00:15:31:14 - 00:15:43:17
Tom
Giving her the sensory play or the flogging. And she'll tell them light or hard and, that I and I'm perfectly fine with that, and she's perfectly fine with that.

00:15:43:17 - 00:15:52:28
Bunny
But you're right there with me watching. Correct. Now, it did happen one time that, Tom was called out of the room and I was like, I'm done.

00:15:53:01 - 00:16:18:17
Tom
Yeah. And I told her I talked to a friend of ours, and I said, I have to go to the office. They're calling me in the office. For some odd reason, I wasn't told why. it was an emergency, and I just told Bunny. I said, you're okay, you're safe. I have so-and-so keeping an eye on you. He's not going to let it go any farther than you want it to go.

00:16:18:21 - 00:16:31:09
Tom
And I go leave the room. Yeah, I was kind of pissed. In the office was six dudes and my boss trying to watch a YouTube video. My boss couldn't figure out how to get the speakers to work.

00:16:31:12 - 00:16:31:26
Bunny
It was murder.

00:16:31:28 - 00:16:43:05
Tom
Meanwhile, I'm like, I get it working. I like I got it going right by the time. Now. This all lasted 2.5 minutes. By the time I got back, but was already done and she wasn't interested in going back home.

00:16:43:07 - 00:17:14:03
Bunny
Because at that point my comfort zone was done. I was done right. So Tom is my comfort zone. And so therefore we like same room, same room. We liked we enjoy watching each other. Yep. some people don't. And that however you want to do it is however you want to do it. And the reason why I bring this up is because on social media now, everybody seems to be wanting to find a boyfriend or wanting to find a girlfriend.

00:17:14:05 - 00:17:25:16
Bunny
And a lot of people, they don't feel comfortable with that. Well, that's just those people's version of being a pineapple that doesn't have to mean that that's your version of it.

00:17:25:18 - 00:17:53:29
Tom
And we do not want to find a boyfriend or girlfriend or couples. That is monogamy with just us. Because, just to be upfront and honest, if a couple approaches you and says that they want to be monogamous with you and you agree to it, you're probably monogamous with them, and chances are they're probably not monogamous with you.

00:17:54:03 - 00:18:03:27
Tom
They're monogamous with you and probably six other couples. And none of you know about each other because they keep everything ultra secret and private.

00:18:03:27 - 00:18:09:11
Bunny
Well, there are there are some that they all live together. But if you don't live together.

00:18:09:14 - 00:18:15:26
Tom
And stuff like that. But I'm just saying we're not into them. What I was saying is we're not into the monogamous thing.

00:18:16:00 - 00:18:36:03
Bunny
I'm going to piss off a lot of people. Oh, Jesus. I was joking with Tom the other day, and I was doing something, and I was getting frustrated and, cleaning up something, and I looked at Tom and I go, you can have a girlfriend. He goes, what? I go as long as she cleans up.

00:18:36:06 - 00:18:38:11
Tom
Yeah, because Bunny was tired of sweeping them off.

00:18:38:16 - 00:18:47:21
Bunny
Oh, that's what it is. I yeah. My back. I have such a bad back. And sweeping and mopping will knock me down for three days. So I said as long as they come in and sweep.

00:18:47:21 - 00:19:00:22
Tom
So if you are a female that loves to sweep and mop and you're looking for a couple today, so long as you sweep them off our house, I finally want mine. So, Feijoo.

00:19:00:25 - 00:19:02:07
Bunny
I'll feed you. Yeah.

00:19:02:10 - 00:19:14:23
Tom
But he's a great cook. Just kidding. Wait, wait. That's another one of our boundaries. And we do not allow people to wake up in our bed.

00:19:14:29 - 00:19:15:09
Bunny
No.

00:19:15:09 - 00:19:39:02
Tom
And we do not wake up in their bed. Meaning, when playtime is over, we go to our room, we go home, we wherever. We just don't stay there. They don't stay there because we want a long time. We want private time. We want to be able to talk about the other couple without them.

00:19:39:02 - 00:19:40:12
Bunny
Being.

00:19:40:14 - 00:20:07:23
Tom
On either side of us, and not in a bad way. Just in just general context of how we felt about the evening. That is our dog and, so we did have one couple that it was their fantasy and we unfortunately declined. And we told them that we couldn't we didn't do it because we.

00:20:07:25 - 00:20:12:28
Bunny
They wanted to, sleep with us and cuddle and,

00:20:13:00 - 00:20:13:28
Tom
Oh, she has a sock.

00:20:14:01 - 00:20:17:06
Bunny
Yeah. I, I don't want to sleep with somebody.

00:20:17:06 - 00:20:19:20
Tom
I don't want to wake up with dragon breath.

00:20:19:23 - 00:20:20:02
Bunny
No.

00:20:20:06 - 00:20:21:29
Tom
Our bed head.

00:20:22:01 - 00:20:23:20
Bunny
Or passing gas.

00:20:23:27 - 00:20:26:06
Tom
Right. Hey, you don't do that.

00:20:26:09 - 00:20:28:20
Bunny
Or like, it's a our snoring.

00:20:28:25 - 00:20:44:05
Tom
No, it's just when we go to meet people, we dress up funny. Does our hair makeup worth a lot of cleavage? Dresses and pineapple necklaces, by the way. Partners. hi.com. You want a necklace like that?

00:20:44:07 - 00:20:52:27
Bunny
And, you know. And and it's funny too, because we have been in the pineapple world a long time. A long time, okay. And we all have.

00:20:53:04 - 00:20:55:15
Tom
Our upside down pineapples were.

00:20:55:15 - 00:21:09:20
Bunny
A thing. And we, like you say we all have our different play. We all have our little quirks. Tom. He could be naked in front of anybody. He'll be the first one naked. Yeah. When it comes time to getting ready, he wants privacy.

00:21:09:23 - 00:21:15:12
Tom
I do. I want my own bathroom. I want my own time. I it's just.

00:21:15:15 - 00:21:19:13
Bunny
When he comes out of the shower, all clean and everything, he doesn't want anybody else.

00:21:19:13 - 00:21:22:26
Tom
They're fine. I it's just a quirk.

00:21:22:26 - 00:21:24:13
Bunny
Yeah, yeah, it's.

00:21:24:13 - 00:21:25:08
Tom
A quirk of mine.

00:21:25:11 - 00:21:32:15
Bunny
You could tell he was never military, right? Never had to take a shower in gym class.

00:21:32:18 - 00:22:03:28
Tom
Now, we singles, we have played with both single females and single men. We typically won't. We do play in those scenarios. We don't have a really big friendship with them outside of play. We we had a couple different ones where they can call us, or we can call them and just say, hey, we just want to hook up.

00:22:04:01 - 00:22:24:03
Tom
We go meet them, hook up and go home. But outside of that, because we have seen a lot, not great things. I mean, there are a lot of singles that embrace the lifestyle, but then there's a lot of singles that want what the other people have.

00:22:24:03 - 00:22:41:23
Bunny
We actually have seen, and I'm going to say it, we've seen a lot of break ups from the break from singles or, you know, people having a boyfriend or girlfriend because when they were out on a date with that other person, the other person's in their ear, like.

00:22:41:23 - 00:23:18:05
Tom
I would, I would treat you much better than your husband or your wife or just we've heard it all. We've seen it all that it's just, boundary. We're not willing to cross at all. It took us a long time to even just allow play time with singles, let alone, have them, I mean, mine, funniest thing is, if you say anything to one of us and you got to have a lot of trust in your partner for this, it ends a friendship.

00:23:18:08 - 00:23:18:25
Bunny
Yes.

00:23:18:25 - 00:23:28:02
Tom
If you say anything negative about the other one of us. even if it's just constructive, if if it pretty much end a friendship.

00:23:28:05 - 00:23:28:19
Bunny
Absolutely.

00:23:28:19 - 00:23:30:20
Tom
Because we don't need that in our life.

00:23:30:23 - 00:24:02:20
Bunny
No. We keep all negativity out the the pineapple world for us. It is very consuming for us because we do work it. So we work in the lifestyle travel industry. We go to the events where we do the videos. We're completely consumed within this world. So therefore for us, we don't really plan anything. We're the we're the ones that you see at 11:00 at night and say, hey, you want to go?

00:24:02:20 - 00:24:04:05
Bunny
Oh yeah, let's go, let's go.

00:24:04:06 - 00:24:33:28
Tom
Because we've been working all night or, we've been hosting an event or anything, and we like to meet people where we are, what you call more social pineapples. there are different levels of pineapples. There are only social pineapples. They will never play with anybody, but they like to be around other pineapple people just because of the openness and the erotic nature.

00:24:34:00 - 00:24:51:06
Tom
There are people like us. We like to go meet at least five different couples, whether we're going to, play or not. It just gives us more people that we can mean. But we also know that we don't want to rooster block them.

00:24:51:08 - 00:24:51:21
Bunny
Know.

00:24:51:21 - 00:25:15:11
Tom
So if we know, there's no connection as far as that goes. And like I said, we can be a wingman. We can be friends with most anybody. We don't want to ruin their night. So we'll usually just say, hey, we're going to move on and we'll go meet another couple that thing is, at the end of the night, we met our five couples or three couples or singles.

00:25:15:11 - 00:25:26:10
Tom
Whatever. Whoever we talk to doesn't mean we have to play with anybody. We're just as content going home and having a great time by ourselves.

00:25:26:10 - 00:25:27:10
Bunny
Yes.

00:25:27:12 - 00:25:35:28
Tom
The whole play aspect, to us is extracurricular and just a little added fun, but, you.

00:25:36:03 - 00:25:42:12
Bunny
Know, a little wider. It's just a little to enhance, to have fun and to do something different.

00:25:42:16 - 00:26:07:27
Tom
Well, and I get it. I totally understand that people would come to our club. They would spend $50 $60 for a membership and then $90 to get in on the on the first night, the membership, which was a year, and then each party was either 80 or $90 to come in, but it was BYOB. Think about it. You're and we had a full buffet and people are like, oh no, it was all sanitary.

00:26:07:27 - 00:26:13:09
Tom
We were regulated by the health department. They would come in randomly during our parties and inspect.

00:26:13:09 - 00:26:16:08
Bunny
Us, and we were from California, so we had an A rating.

00:26:16:10 - 00:26:35:05
Tom
Or rating. So, and if you would think about it, a pineapple club or a stripper club, most people would be afraid to eat out. But we were so scrutinized it was very, clean. I forget where.

00:26:35:05 - 00:26:48:10
Bunny
It's gone, you are saying. But those a lot of those people would come in and they'd. I need a car. Some people would. Some people would just have a good time and enjoy each other. And if they hooked up, they hooked up and they were good.

00:26:48:12 - 00:27:17:06
Tom
Well, okay, that's where I was going then. People pay $90 to come in. I understand they might have kids at home. They work a lot. They only go out. Some people once a month and we never understood. I understand it, but we never understood it to the point where they would leave yelling at each other because they didn't hook up and they wasted all that money.

00:27:17:09 - 00:27:19:19
Tom
But yet they had a great time.

00:27:19:19 - 00:27:20:18
Bunny
Yeah, but they were all.

00:27:20:18 - 00:27:22:01
Tom
The way up until they.

00:27:22:01 - 00:27:24:18
Bunny
Left. But they would always blame it on each other.

00:27:24:19 - 00:27:49:04
Tom
They would blame each other like you weren't a great wing person or you you were ignoring the other person. Well, maybe that was a hit and a half that you need to move on to. Another couple are another single. If, like I always tell people we prefer couples, that's for people. There's a 75% chance nothing will happen and people will be like 75%.

00:27:49:05 - 00:28:06:25
Tom
Yeah, because if 25% meaning one person is not interested on our boundary, nothing happens. Correct? That includes if one person and the other couples not interested in one of us, or both of us or any of us, but the other one is it's done. We we just don't cross those.

00:28:06:25 - 00:28:26:24
Bunny
Lines, you know? And, and to be fair to yourself, you've got to have that respect for yourself too, that if it's just not working for you, if you're not feeling it, you've got it. You've got to tell your partner that right. you've got to let your partner know that that that it's it's not working for me.

00:28:26:24 - 00:28:27:29
Bunny
Let's move on.

00:28:27:29 - 00:28:49:11
Tom
You got I mean, when we. Okay. So how would we get out of situations is another big question we've always had. Let me I'm by any artist. Easy. Now we just say, hey, let's go meet this other couple or I've been wanting to meet this couple. We'll have nice meeting you. We'll. We'll talk to you later. Not cutting anything off for the future.

00:28:49:11 - 00:28:57:00
Tom
Just, It makes it easy out what we would do when we first got into it because we didn't know what to do.

00:28:57:05 - 00:28:57:16
Bunny
Right?

00:28:57:16 - 00:29:24:23
Tom
So we use the weather to our advantage. And we could either say, like, if we're not interested, well, let's just say we're interested because we're saying too much about not interested if we're interested in the other couple, we could say, man, it's pretty warm in here. Yeah, that means if I said it, that means I am interested in both House of the couple.

00:29:24:26 - 00:29:32:24
Tom
And then buddy would reply back with either. Yeah, it's like Phoenix, it's hot in Phoenix. That means.

00:29:32:27 - 00:29:33:08
Bunny
It's good.

00:29:33:12 - 00:29:56:04
Tom
If they're interested, we're interested. We can move forward that way. At least we knew our signal. But if she said, but it's freezing in Iowa, I. I knew she wasn't interested. And therefore then we would bow out and move on. And the couples never knew until we did a video and we talked about it and we got called out a couple times.

00:29:56:04 - 00:30:01:14
Bunny
Yeah, yes, we did it before we did. And we've had to. Yeah.

00:30:01:18 - 00:30:07:26
Tom
And they always say, you know, the best thing is to be upfront and honest and it's hard. It's you don't want to hurt people's feelings.

00:30:07:26 - 00:30:19:05
Bunny
No. You know, and it's funny because when we stopped using it was when we were in the middle of Palm Springs and, 110 degrees and.

00:30:20:12 - 00:30:23:07
Bunny
Tom was really having a good time.

00:30:23:07 - 00:30:24:19
Tom
We were in the hot tub.

00:30:24:22 - 00:30:26:23
Bunny
And Tom was really having a good time.

00:30:26:25 - 00:30:29:12
Tom
She was one of my fantasy girls.

00:30:29:12 - 00:30:35:03
Bunny
Yeah. See, this is what I was getting hot. I was getting this.

00:30:35:05 - 00:30:36:13
Tom
But he was watching us.

00:30:36:14 - 00:30:40:12
Bunny
He was watching you. I was trying to get.

00:30:40:14 - 00:30:41:11
Tom
A good looking guy, too.

00:30:41:13 - 00:30:51:26
Bunny
He was trying to get things going, but it just wasn't going to go there. No. And I kept trying. And it's one of the things you've gotta learn your your couple signals, you've got to learn each other cigarets and.

00:30:51:26 - 00:30:52:14
Tom
Alcohol.

00:30:52:16 - 00:30:58:16
Bunny
And alcohol and Tom wasn't catching anything. So I finally just Josh stands up.

00:30:58:18 - 00:31:02:12
Tom
Gets on the edge of the koozie and goes, what do you say?

00:31:02:14 - 00:31:06:28
Bunny
I'm leaving. It's freezing in here.

00:31:07:00 - 00:31:08:21
Tom
And it's 110 degrees.

00:31:08:24 - 00:31:14:14
Bunny
Outside in a Jacuzzi. Tom looked at her and goes, oh, I guess my.

00:31:14:16 - 00:31:22:28
Tom
Hand on forehead push her back, said, I gotta go. I'm not going to piss off the wife of all people.

00:31:23:01 - 00:31:23:20
Bunny
But see, we.

00:31:23:22 - 00:31:50:07
Tom
We ended up playing with the waiter. We did. What happened was, is they were fairly new, and he was very nervous. It wasn't that we learned it. We we talked to him later on when we actually played with him, and he had a lot to drink, and he was more embarrassed about his performance. So therefore it was easier to keep an arm's distance than it was to humiliate himself.

00:31:50:14 - 00:32:04:14
Tom
Because when we grew up in this pineapple world, it wasn't uncommon. If a guy couldn't perform that, the female would put him on blast in front of an entire club, and it sucked.

00:32:04:16 - 00:32:07:15
Bunny
It did. It sucked really bad.

00:32:07:17 - 00:32:11:02
Tom
Nowadays it's a little bit more politically correct.

00:32:11:04 - 00:32:34:20
Bunny
And people are because because people like us are coming forward and, you know, telling and, well, outing people like that, but telling people that it's a fact of life. Eddie, Eddie is very, very common. There's no reason that you have to live with it, because now I just talked to somebody and you can have things taken care of.

00:32:34:23 - 00:32:53:16
Bunny
But back then, nobody wanted to say anything. No one would say anything. And so when they would go back with somebody and they couldn't, achieve anything, then the other person would just like, don't go downstairs with him. He can't get it up. And it's like, you can't do that. You can't do that.

00:32:53:16 - 00:32:59:19
Tom
Right? And, you know, they say too much drinking inhibits the clubbing.

00:33:00:09 - 00:33:17:15
Tom
So, so that's another thing is we don't deal with drunks when we go out with somebody and they're just tying it on. It's a turn off for us. We we drink socially. We drink. I mean we used to be the drunks but we.

00:33:17:18 - 00:33:20:25
Bunny
But we always hooked up with people that were just as drunk.

00:33:20:25 - 00:33:38:22
Tom
Yeah. So it didn't really matter. But when we're more the sober ones now because of our jobs and everything, if somebody is too drunk will usually say, hey, let's meet up another time, because we're not not interested. We just aren't interested at that very moment.

00:33:38:24 - 00:33:56:11
Bunny
If that makes sense. No it does, it does. And like I said you know you've got to really keep not only the lines of communication with each other but with that couple. So if you really like them and if there was just something that night then you just say, hey, you know, maybe, maybe we can try again later or anything like that.

00:33:56:11 - 00:34:06:22
Bunny
But we keep everything like, you know, cool. Unless you just don't want to see him again like I did and said, nope, I'm not leaving with you. Right? Yeah, right. But.

00:34:06:24 - 00:34:14:11
Tom
I again, Are we are we talking about the.

00:34:14:15 - 00:34:20:25
Bunny
No no, no. So in their email that's next. So basically what we're talking about is, the.

00:34:20:28 - 00:34:23:04
Tom
More questions we've been asked.

00:34:23:06 - 00:34:43:04
Bunny
And the fact is, is, like you said to this one was just separate rooms or dating or playing together. And that's what you have to discuss and what you guys are comfortable with. Right? We do know couples that don't even like to play in the same room because they don't want to see each other. So they always separate and that works for them.

00:34:43:06 - 00:34:59:19
Bunny
So what works for somebody else may or may not work for you. And, it's like I always said, it's it's your pineapple world. You do what how you want to do it. And don't let anybody pressure you or make you feel bad about anything else.

00:34:59:22 - 00:35:29:21
Tom
Because at the end of the day, you're with your spouse, whether you like them or not, because again, like Bonnie said, she's seen we have seen people whisper into other singles, like we had one couple where the guy was telling his wife cooking a boyfriend, and then come home and tell me all about it while they played. And pretty soon she dumped him and she ended up marrying the boyfriend.

00:35:29:27 - 00:35:33:22
Tom
And we have seen that on numerous occasions.

00:35:33:22 - 00:35:44:16
Bunny
And we've seen it in couples too. Yes. Where for couple or two couples are really, really good friends, and then the other spouses don't know that there's something going on on the side.

00:35:44:16 - 00:35:54:29
Tom
Oh, yeah. cheating. I mean, the lifestyle that people say, oh, there's no cheating in the lifestyle. Yes, there is. And not everyone is.

00:35:55:01 - 00:35:56:03
Bunny
upfront and honest.

00:35:56:09 - 00:36:11:22
Tom
All right. Yeah. They're moral. Their morality. But yeah it just be like if they were cheating on their wife or husband without the lifestyle, they're doing it using the lifestyle to fine people.

00:36:11:24 - 00:36:12:20
Bunny
And we don't want to.

00:36:12:27 - 00:36:41:28
Tom
Now we did say what I at least one couple, two couples where they were monogamous and they were doing the hot and heavy with the, with with each other together. And then they realized they didn't have as much in common with their own spouses as they did with the other half of the other spouses. They literally all divorced, remarried the other half of the spouses, and then bought a house together.

00:36:41:28 - 00:36:46:18
Bunny
Yeah. And continued to live in a poly lifestyle.

00:36:46:21 - 00:36:48:08
Tom
Who would have thunk that?

00:36:48:11 - 00:36:50:20
Bunny
I mean.

00:36:50:22 - 00:36:52:21
Tom
But at least they acknowledge that.

00:36:52:24 - 00:37:13:29
Bunny
They weren't meant to be, right? So it was meant to be. And they just they found the one. And and it happens. It happens more than people realize, right. but no, it's like I said it to your pineapple world. You do it how you want to do it. You do, you do. You want to be a social pineapple?

00:37:13:29 - 00:37:18:11
Bunny
Or if you want to be a hardcore pineapple, more power.

00:37:18:13 - 00:37:44:05
Tom
There are pineapple people that was we ran a club for 20 years. We knew them. They would walk in the door and it was like notching the bedpost was. Their goal was. And husband and wives were are. Yeah. Husband wives would have competitions on who can bang the most people and in the six hours that they're going to be.

00:37:44:05 - 00:37:47:11
Bunny
There, they literally come up for a glass of water and go back down.

00:37:47:13 - 00:38:13:07
Tom
And they I mean, now me and Barney are like that. We're we're we were I mean, have we played with multiple couples in one setting? Absolutely. But to just go hibernate in the playroom and just stay there from the minute it opens to the time they're going to go home anyways, that does that's not the social.

00:38:13:09 - 00:38:16:02
Bunny
that's not our, our level of.

00:38:16:02 - 00:38:32:03
Tom
Comfort. Yeah. We like socializing. We don't, no orgy settings. I mean, there's a lot of orgies out there. Nothing wrong with them. Mind and bindings, kind of thoughts on this. Is.

00:38:32:05 - 00:38:34:24
Tom
Everyone has to be attracted to everyone.

00:38:34:26 - 00:38:38:09
Bunny
That's what I would think. Yes.

00:38:38:11 - 00:39:12:29
Tom
we do have to have an attraction, whether it be physical or mental. we both need to have somewhat of an attraction. And that type of environment you just got to be you got to put blinders on and I guess throw caution to the wind. Our big thing is call me OCD. I'm uncleanliness fanatic and going from partner to partner to partner to partner to partner to partner.

00:39:13:01 - 00:39:20:04
Tom
I don't know when they washed what happened in their prison wallets, I don't.

00:39:20:06 - 00:39:36:11
Bunny
Yeah, well a lot of you don't. You don't know if she if like if you're going with a girl you don't know if she's had, intercourse with somebody with condom on or without a condom on or if somebody did not know.

00:39:36:13 - 00:39:44:23
Tom
Did he? Not in her. And then next thing you know, she wants me to go down on her. I don't know, and I'm just very uncomfortable in those scenarios.

00:39:44:26 - 00:40:07:16
Bunny
Yeah. Yeah. No, no it's just funny because and like with you know a female I mean your, your balance is completely different than somebody else's. And if somebody even doesn't wipe around their body parts before they penetrate then guess what? I am going to get a bacterial.

00:40:07:16 - 00:40:09:17
Tom
Infection or a urinary tract infection.

00:40:09:22 - 00:40:17:00
Bunny
Just from the pH balance from female to female. So it just it's your your life.

00:40:17:02 - 00:40:45:12
Tom
Now, we did organize an orgy once, and what I did was I talked to a friend of mine because we were at a club. Everyone knew who we were, so we didn't want to out ourselves. So I asked him if he would be the front. It was a couple, if they would be the front people, and because they were one of the couples that would play with this many people, as they could in a party setting, which is fine with us.

00:40:45:12 - 00:41:11:23
Tom
We're okay with that. and if we could use his place and then we're fine with that, too, because I used to have parties. Yeah. So what I did was I went on a swing lifestyle.com or cassidy.com sdc.com, and I would look at everybody, all the profiles that we were attracted to. And then I would send them a message.

00:41:11:25 - 00:41:33:02
Tom
And if they were interested in coming to this party, we were creating, then we would open it up to, each couple that was and it was couples only each couple that was interested. We would then open up the other profile so that they could see.

00:41:33:05 - 00:41:33:25
Bunny
Who they.

00:41:33:25 - 00:42:02:24
Tom
Were attracted to each other, meaning it was all pre-planned. Everyone would have an attraction to everyone. And then we set it up to 8:00 to 9:00. Everyone met at this couples house and then 9:00 if you after meeting everyone for an hour and we had drinks, cocktails, we had pizza. If you weren't interested in even one person, how many people did we have?

00:42:02:29 - 00:42:06:26
Tom
We had 12 couples. So, yeah. And a 11th stay.

00:42:06:27 - 00:42:07:22
Bunny
Yeah.

00:42:07:24 - 00:42:37:07
Tom
If you weren't attracted to every single person and willing basically by staying, you were giving your consent. We weren't forcing it. We're just saying, consent was implied by staying after 9:00. The other thing was we locked the door. No one's allowed back in our in after 9:00. And that way it didn't interrupt anything. And then we had stacks of washcloths in the bathrooms.

00:42:37:09 - 00:42:54:26
Tom
If there was any penetration with or without a condom. We're not mom and dad. We're just saying, with or without, before it went into somebody else's present wallet, they needed to go to the bathroom and actually wash their junk. And so with the female.

00:42:55:25 - 00:43:02:25
Tom
And that was probably one of our best parties. We've only done it once and it was hard to do.

00:43:02:26 - 00:43:03:07
Bunny
Yeah.

00:43:03:13 - 00:43:10:03
Tom
But it was probably one of the best experiences we've ever had because it was, it was a lot of fun.

00:43:10:05 - 00:43:12:18
Bunny
It was a lot of fun for sure.

00:43:12:20 - 00:43:21:20
Tom
But he did have to pull somebody off of me because it was her intention to make me right. And Bonnie's right.

00:43:21:21 - 00:43:23:16
Bunny
No no no no no no no.

00:43:23:16 - 00:43:24:05
Tom
We're here to have.

00:43:24:05 - 00:43:42:06
Bunny
Fun with a lot of people and people. Not just one, not just one person. That was during Eddie. And when he was able to achieve an erection the minute he orgasm, he was done for the night night done. And I'm like, no, no, no no no no no no no.

00:43:42:10 - 00:43:45:26
Tom
Once it goes up it's fine. But once

00:43:45:28 - 00:43:51:13
Bunny
So I was like no no no no no he, he didn't come here for just you. Right. I was nice about it.

00:43:51:19 - 00:43:53:23
Tom
Now we haven't been this open in.

00:43:53:26 - 00:43:54:20
Bunny
A long time.

00:43:54:23 - 00:44:09:22
Tom
I mean we're, we're open books but we've never really laid it out there because like I said, these are questions people ask us. And we thought, you know what? We finally started documenting the questions and a lot of them are off the top of our heads.

00:44:09:22 - 00:44:26:02
Bunny
Right. And because, like I said, a lot of people were like, well, I don't want to go on a date with somebody or I don't want to be in separate rooms. So we just putting it out there that, yeah, Tom and I are normal everyday people that have the extra curricular, but we like to do it together.

00:44:26:07 - 00:44:29:11
Bunny
Yeah. So that's just it.

00:44:29:18 - 00:44:55:04
Tom
Now let me look. Let me show you how old I am. We got the glasses or 45 minutes. All right. So we're going to call this one, a done deal. We'll get this one up. If you did not know we are on YouTube, we're also on every part, part, podcast site. I'm getting tongue tied.

00:44:55:06 - 00:45:18:21
Tom
we also own all the social media platforms. Just look at Tom and Bonnie. If you're watching us, it's right there on the screen. Tom and boo and y. Yeah, and that's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube and all the, podcast sites. we like Spotify. I mean, it works out really good. And you can see all of our new images that we put up.

00:45:18:26 - 00:45:19:24
Bunny
Of course.

00:45:19:26 - 00:45:48:18
Tom
If you have any questions, go to Tom and bunny.com and click the contact link. And we'll, we'll reply to that. And if you are looking at traveling to hedonism, desire bliss cruises or even not in dollars, we would much, much, much really appreciate if you would book with Tom's trips.com because this is how we do these videos.

00:45:48:18 - 00:46:09:07
Tom
It cost you zero and it cost you nothing more and you might save money booking with Tom's trips than anyone else are the resort directly. So please, we beg you buck with Tom's trips.com so our bosses will continue to keep paying us to be sitting here talking about our sex life.

00:46:09:09 - 00:46:11:21
Bunny
He's happy because they're not because they're.

00:46:11:21 - 00:46:17:10
Tom
Not going to talk to you about their sex life. So anyway, until next video.

00:46:17:13 - 00:46:18:13
Bunny
We'll see you soon.

00:46:18:14 - 00:46:19:15
Tom
We'll see you soon.

How to talk my wife into swinging

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00:00:03:00 – 00:00:26:07
Tom
Hey, everyone. Tom and Bunny here and I know we’re getting ready to watch our next video. And if you find this video useful or some of the videos from the past, please do us a favor by booking your travel through us at Tom’s trips.com, or give us a call at 1-800-285-0853 and I can answer any questions and get you booked on your next lifestyle vacation.

00:00:26:07 – 00:00:52:07
Tom
Hey everyone. We are Tom and Bonnie with Tom and by. It’s right there on the bottom of your screen if you’re watching us on YouTube, if you are not watching us on YouTube and you’re listening to us on podcasts, we invite you to jump over to YouTube and check us out. Just search Tom and Bonnie and if you’re watching us on YouTube and you prefer to listen to us in your car, we’re on pretty much every major podcast network.

00:00:52:14 – 00:00:55:22
Tom
So you can just search Tom and Bonnie.

00:00:55:24 – 00:00:56:23
Bunny
We make it simple.

00:00:56:23 – 00:01:15:23
Tom
We try to make it simple. We actually work for Tom’s trips. You’re a leader in adult lifestyle travel and this is how we are able to do these videos is because of your viewership, your comments, your feedback. But more importantly, booking with Tom’s trips.

00:01:15:23 – 00:01:17:10
Bunny
Yes. So call me.

00:01:17:12 – 00:01:25:29
Tom
Yes. The phone number is right there on the screen right now. Call Bonnie. And so she’s a low pressure sales person, but she’ll answer all your questions.

00:01:25:29 – 00:01:29:13
Bunny
And you’ll talk to me, not my assistant.

00:01:29:16 – 00:01:41:04
Tom
With Bonnie. Does I have an assistant? So real quick, there is a story on that. When people do call the 800 number and when it’s really flattering.

00:01:41:05 – 00:01:42:15
Bunny
It is very flattering.

00:01:42:16 – 00:01:58:22
Tom
And when Bonnie answers the phone and the people get all giddy, are they, get tongue tied? And then they say, I didn’t think you were going to answer the phone. I thought you would have an assistant. And what’s your response?

00:01:58:22 – 00:02:00:01
Bunny
I am the assistant.

00:02:00:01 – 00:02:10:01
Tom
Bonnie is distance. Yes. We work a real job, ladies. And yes, we do. so we just thought that was. I thought that was kind of work.

00:02:10:01 – 00:02:13:09
Bunny
A real job. Straight from my phone. Wherever my phone’s out, I’m at.

00:02:13:10 – 00:02:21:14
Tom
Yeah. We tell people, you know, a lot of people work from an office, other people work from home. We work from the phone. Currently, my phone is up. They’re recording.

00:02:21:14 – 00:02:27:00
Bunny
Us. I used to work from up here in in this little studio.

00:02:27:02 – 00:02:35:22
Tom
I know the lighted area over Bonnie’s head right there. That’s a little cubby with the dormer window and that there’s a desk.

00:02:35:25 – 00:02:50:00
Bunny
I should start working back up here again, because whenever the phone ring, I’d have to run up here, take care of it, and then run back downstairs. I should do it because, you know, I mean, it’s up and downstairs. There’s 17 steps from the.

00:02:50:02 – 00:02:52:28
Tom
Bell that you gotta come down these steps to go back up these.

00:02:52:28 – 00:02:57:06
Bunny
Steps. Yeah. So there’s only maybe I’ll do that. I’ll put that back up here.

00:02:57:10 – 00:03:28:07
Tom
Now, one of the things we do tell people all the time is if you ask us questions, a lot of times we will respond to your questions. However, when we get asked multiple times, we feel that there is a need for our answer to be more public and more on YouTube or podcasts because we figure if we get five or more questions, there’s gotta be a lot more people out there that have a same exact burning question.

00:03:28:10 – 00:03:39:13
Tom
And often times we get, oh my God, I ran across this video or this podcast and you answered, well, we don’t say we answer all the questions. What do we do?

00:03:39:16 – 00:03:40:21
Bunny
We give our opinion.

00:03:40:21 – 00:03:42:09
Tom
Yeah, which doesn’t mean nothing.

00:03:42:09 – 00:03:45:24
Bunny
No, just us are the only ones that care about our opinion.

00:03:45:25 – 00:04:02:13
Tom
We are the content creators that say our opinion is just our opinion. It means absolutely nothing and you could take it for what it’s worth. And we hope what works for us may or may not work for you, but we hope it works for you.

00:04:02:15 – 00:04:02:28
Bunny
Yes we.

00:04:02:28 – 00:04:04:02
Tom
Do. That makes sense.

00:04:04:04 – 00:04:05:13
Bunny
It completely okay.

00:04:05:17 – 00:04:20:07
Tom
So but we always say ask five other people that are in the direction you’re looking at and you’ll get five varying answers. And then just choose the one you resonate. Best and the most.

00:04:20:07 – 00:04:49:11
Bunny
Well with of course you do. Yeah. Of course you do. Now you know. And it’s, there’s so many different content creators out there from all aspects of life and which is what absolutely makes this new pineapple world so great. Yeah. And I really and I really, absolutely love that. And we all have our little following too. I mean, because there’s some that are much younger than us and there’s some that are older than us, so we fall right in that as.

00:04:49:12 – 00:05:05:25
Tom
Content creators that host hotel takeovers. So they offer a great, advice because they’re talking from experience. they’re like finding said there’s younger content creators. There’s our age.

00:05:05:28 – 00:05:10:15
Bunny
Yes, there’s some that are just straight lifestyle. There’s some that are into.

00:05:10:18 – 00:05:11:05
Tom
Fatter.

00:05:11:07 – 00:05:15:25
Bunny
Baristas, poorly, I mean, you name it, all gamuts are.

00:05:15:25 – 00:05:39:04
Tom
Covered now we will start off by saying there is no right or wrong way of navigating the lifestyle. However you personally choose to navigate, it is the most accepting way to navigate it. You do not have to conform to others ideology to be in this lifestyle. That’s absolutely. I accept.

00:05:39:08 – 00:05:40:15
Bunny
The absolute truth, but.

00:05:40:15 – 00:05:56:05
Tom
All the creators welcome, advice, suggestions and everything and that’s what makes it great. It gives you may resonate with another creator more. You may resonate with us. It doesn’t matter. you may resonate with multiple creators.

00:05:56:08 – 00:06:06:29
Bunny
Yeah. Because some of us are still on the same wavelength. It it’s just great. Yeah. I just love listening to and talking to other people about different situations.

00:06:07:00 – 00:06:14:18
Tom
Right. So we just got recently, we recently so we just got recently about it’s my hearing.

00:06:14:19 – 00:06:15:07
Bunny
It is yours.

00:06:15:08 – 00:06:38:06
Tom
I mean literally I know I’m going to go stay off topic for a second. if you guys have been following us, I have had multiple surgeries in the last six months. Sitting is six months. Six months. I, I’ve had a hand surgery. And then I had a cochlear surgery and then I had a penile implant surgery.

00:06:38:06 – 00:06:39:01
Bunny
Yes.

00:06:39:03 – 00:06:51:11
Tom
And then I just had another Kokila surgery and the Kokila penile implant cochlear all within one month. Well a month and a half. Yeah.

00:06:51:14 – 00:06:52:05
Bunny
I mean it was.

00:06:52:05 – 00:06:53:17
Tom
Just bam bam bam.

00:06:53:17 – 00:06:54:15
Bunny
Yes.

00:06:54:17 – 00:06:58:00
Tom
Yeah. But it’s our slow. It was our slow time.

00:06:58:02 – 00:07:06:25
Bunny
Right. I was going to say come July you’re going to get your butt probed.

00:07:06:27 – 00:07:12:09
Bunny
Oh it’s that time I forgot about.

00:07:12:09 – 00:07:17:07
Tom
Don’t don’t. No, we’re not going to talk about that.

00:07:17:10 – 00:07:18:18
Tom
What is that called, an MBA?

00:07:18:24 – 00:07:21:07
Bunny
No, you’re going to go nuts.

00:07:21:09 – 00:07:24:07
Tom
Ask. I thought it was an endoscope or something.

00:07:24:12 – 00:07:27:01
Bunny
That’s just how old we are, right?

00:07:27:03 – 00:07:30:05
Tom
So, yeah, unfortunately, we got to go through all that.

00:07:30:05 – 00:07:31:05
Bunny
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:31:12 – 00:07:57:21
Tom
But anyway, just a quick, quick, quick update. I am healing great. My implant is three weeks old. And we’ve used it twice. and we recommend not using it for about three months. And I will still go with that recommendation because the last two times. So it’s a little painful. I had to, deflate it really fast since we.

00:07:57:24 – 00:08:02:01
Tom
Yeah. Says we say our good as we say, not as we do here.

00:08:02:08 – 00:08:07:04
Bunny
There it is. Well, I was looking for, backwards. Backwards.

00:08:07:06 – 00:08:15:07
Tom
But, so we did talk to our urologist, our urologist.

00:08:15:07 – 00:08:16:06
Bunny
Our.

00:08:16:08 – 00:08:36:14
Tom
Great guy. Love him, love him. And I told him, I said, hey, when we are talking about you going on video coming up, I was on drugs. Were you serious? And he goes, absolutely. So he’s going to come over here to our house one of these nights. We just have to care.

00:08:36:16 – 00:08:48:06
Bunny
Okay, go get get the schedule. But can I reiterate the fact that you’re on pain medication and you were on, coming out of Anastacia. You weren’t on drugs.

00:08:48:08 – 00:08:49:29
Tom
That. Right? Right, right, right.

00:08:50:00 – 00:08:50:27
Bunny
You were medicated.

00:08:51:01 – 00:09:05:29
Tom
I, I was legally medicated. So, are legally on drugs. I’m doing the air quotes because somebody is going to put us on blast, and they always do because they didn’t hear the context. They only heard the headline.

00:09:06:00 – 00:09:07:02
Bunny
Yeah.

00:09:07:04 – 00:09:28:04
Tom
So let’s hear the context before we make comments, please. So anyway, everything’s healing. Well, the doctor is coming to our house. He’s going to do a while. We do all of our videos and then we turn them into podcast. So it’s going to be probably several weeks, maybe 3 or 4 weeks.

00:09:28:04 – 00:09:30:14
Bunny
Our travel scramble was crazy, right?

00:09:30:14 – 00:09:37:22
Tom
Because he can do it during the week. And our I mean, we’re traveling from Thursday through Sunday and Monday is a recovery day.

00:09:38:20 – 00:10:14:19
Tom
So that only usually leaves a couple of days. So look forward to him. He’s actually going to join us on several years ago we were doing videos on Eddie. and we did a, quite a few videos and I took them off. And not that I have thin skin, but I was getting more negativity about my head from supposed people that didn’t have Eddie and, are how can I talk about it or be so open about it, blah blah, blah blah blah.

00:10:14:21 – 00:10:20:00
Tom
The fact is, is how many percentage of people with, diabetes have 80.

00:10:20:03 – 00:10:20:24
Bunny
80%.

00:10:20:24 – 00:10:41:00
Tom
80% of people with diabetes have some form of Eddie. We’re going to talk to the doctor. We’re going to get real numbers. But one of the numbers is, on the Eddie thing is, if people don’t talk about it to their doctor or their wife, how many people truly have it?

00:10:41:03 – 00:10:42:12
Bunny
And that, yeah.

00:10:42:12 – 00:10:43:22
Tom
That we don’t even know.

00:10:43:22 – 00:10:44:18
Bunny
About.

00:10:44:20 – 00:10:54:19
Tom
We only know about what’s documented with urology and, family practices or Viagra sales. All right. You know what I mean?

00:10:54:19 – 00:10:54:26
Bunny
Yeah.

00:10:54:26 – 00:10:56:18
Tom
Well, that’s how they’re documenting.

00:10:56:19 – 00:11:03:00
Bunny
Viagra sales that they know of. They don’t know. Right. Other ones. India. Yeah, exactly. Acquired.

00:11:03:01 – 00:11:10:08
Tom
We’re not saying you should go to India, order from India or go to Mexico. Just it’s gotten cheaper though.

00:11:10:11 – 00:11:13:04
Bunny
It has it. Yeah I haven’t I haven’t priced it doesn’t.

00:11:13:04 – 00:11:13:19
Tom
Work for me.

00:11:13:19 – 00:11:17:00
Bunny
No, no I say we haven’t tried that in a long time.

00:11:17:02 – 00:11:39:16
Tom
so. Yeah, we’re going to bring back a lot of those 80 videos. I didn’t delete them. I just turned them off. And you know what? I’m just going to grow a thick skin and I’m just going to put them back online. And hopefully the negative comments I can weed out. But if it if those videos help people, that’s the import.

00:11:39:18 – 00:11:54:01
Tom
If it helps one one guy out there are even a couple trying to understand, because a lot of times I know this isn’t even the video, but a lot of times Bonnie was thinking it was her.

00:11:54:23 – 00:12:01:27
Tom
Personally, not me physically. So. So yeah, I think it’s time to bring those back.

00:12:02:00 – 00:12:02:18
Bunny
And of course.

00:12:02:18 – 00:12:03:22
Tom
I’m a happy camper.

00:12:03:24 – 00:12:04:17
Bunny
Yeah. You are.

00:12:04:20 – 00:12:14:16
Tom
All right. So, with that said, that was our course. We haven’t done a video in a while. Now is our quick, quick update to the update to the update.

00:12:14:19 – 00:12:15:06
Bunny
Of course.

00:12:15:07 – 00:12:15:18
Tom
Okay.

00:12:15:19 – 00:12:17:05
Bunny
Enough talking about your junk now.

00:12:17:05 – 00:12:19:28
Tom
Yeah. So what question did you get recently asked.

00:12:19:28 – 00:12:49:13
Bunny
And so this lady contacted me and she wanted her and her husband hadn’t been discussing getting into the pineapple world. And of course, she had numerous, numerous questions. And and some of them were kind of bordered on poorly and some of them were on lifestyle. And then, of course, she thought, well, as my husband pushing me into this and, and, like I told her, I said, you got to communicate all of those issues for starters, right?

00:12:49:15 – 00:13:02:04
Bunny
And of course, I asked her different questions about what, you know, he was doing or saying, and, and it and it just turned out that he wasn’t trying to push her into it. He was just showing his, enthusiasm.

00:13:02:06 – 00:13:02:25
Tom
Right.

00:13:02:28 – 00:13:05:04
Bunny
And his excitement is to.

00:13:05:06 – 00:13:05:25
Tom
Enthusiasm.

00:13:05:25 – 00:13:09:17
Bunny
Over enthused. And which happens a lot.

00:13:09:18 – 00:13:11:20
Tom
It does. And.

00:13:11:22 – 00:13:28:03
Bunny
I mean, was really think back for the people that are already in this in our world, when you have had your first initial hookup, gone to a club, anything, you come home and you’re so excited about it and you wanted to.

00:13:28:05 – 00:13:28:21
Tom
Hit, but.

00:13:28:22 – 00:13:33:01
Bunny
You want to tell everybody and you can’t you can’t just tell everybody.

00:13:33:03 – 00:13:43:03
Tom
Well, it depends on who you are. There are parents or that would go to their job and tell everyone, which we would never, ever advise.

00:13:43:05 – 00:13:44:11
Bunny
no.

00:13:44:13 – 00:14:03:25
Tom
we, I think Pineapple World is a sexual lifestyle. It’s not a marriage. It’s not, anything that you’re trying to achieve. They’re like nodding all and say, have the sexual freedom parade.

00:14:03:28 – 00:14:05:15
Bunny
Hey, I was going to say that.

00:14:05:18 – 00:14:06:06
Tom
Oh, sorry.

00:14:06:06 – 00:14:15:17
Bunny
So I was going to say so you can pretty much go with sexual freedom, right. And that’s exactly what what this lifestyle is all.

00:14:15:17 – 00:14:47:03
Tom
About right now. What the Sexual Freedom Parade is. It goes down Bourbon Street and through the French Quarter. And the one thing about it is it it kind of opens people eyes up. hey, there’s a lot of people that don’t have the chances that normal relationships have are that they are more sexually active, are sexual beings. I truly believe that, as a human race, we were never meant to be totally monogamous.

00:14:47:03 – 00:15:18:02
Tom
Sexually, we are committed to each other. Yes. Me and Bunny have been married 38 years. This, it was 24, and we’ve been together over 39 years. Some people would always say, oh, your marriage has gone, crash, or you’re going to get divorce. Now, me and Barney just know how to navigate, see? And that’s the key thing is knowing how to navigate the pineapple world and not I mean, we always tell we.

00:15:18:02 – 00:15:29:02
Tom
Oh, you used to tell people jump in with both feet and then back out of the waters to your comfort level, because if you go in too slowly, it kind of gets,

00:15:29:04 – 00:15:32:07
Bunny
Too many roles, too boring.

00:15:32:10 – 00:16:00:01
Tom
it’s just me and Barney are one role was we had a one seat for everything. Meaning if one of us did something the other really didn’t care to see afterwards, we would talk about the whole encounter. And if one of us said, hey, we had fun. But I really didn’t like this part of the encounter. Doesn’t matter what it is, it could be someone playing with her toes.

00:16:00:01 – 00:16:03:26
Tom
I don’t have a foot fetish, but I might have an issue with somebody.

00:16:03:29 – 00:16:04:14
Bunny
Yeah.

00:16:04:16 – 00:16:18:20
Tom
Doing something I wouldn’t do at home. I don’t know, I’m just making stuff up. But we agree that at that point we won’t cross that line again. We never crossed the line in the first place.

00:16:18:23 – 00:16:21:28
Bunny
No, we had a one because we had a yes, because we asserted.

00:16:21:28 – 00:16:23:28
Tom
We don’t hold it against each.

00:16:23:28 – 00:16:41:07
Bunny
Other. Not at all. Not at all. Now, her concern was it almost sounded as though her husband was looking for a poly relationship with another couple, and she didn’t want to do that. She thought it was just going to be more fun to go out and mix and mingle with multiple people.

00:16:41:07 – 00:16:41:25
Tom
Right?

00:16:41:28 – 00:16:55:26
Bunny
And, you know, like, that’s what I told her, you know, you’ve got to communicate this with your husband. And I said, but, you know, things always involve two. I mean, you may start one way, you might end up with another. Yeah.

00:16:55:29 – 00:17:11:05
Tom
Those couples that started off as pineapple and then turned poly. And then there’s people that wanted to start off poly and turned pineapple. I mean life is ever changing. Kind of like Garth Brooks. The song the River.

00:17:11:05 – 00:17:12:07
Bunny
Of course got.

00:17:12:07 – 00:17:13:13
Tom
A got a follower follow.

00:17:13:13 – 00:17:23:11
Bunny
Flows like, you know, we’re still in the pineapple world. But I mean, as far as doing anything, it’s been a long time.

00:17:23:12 – 00:17:49:06
Tom
Well, I’ve been broken for a long time, but I will say me and funny, we’re not so much selective, are picky some people, because that comes along as a negative connotation. We can be friends with pretty much everyone, and I always have to leave myself an out because there are people we never want to encounter ever, ever again.

00:17:49:06 – 00:17:51:15
Tom
Just because we weren’t expecting.

00:17:51:17 – 00:17:52:17
Bunny
Exactly, yes.

00:17:52:17 – 00:18:09:03
Tom
But when it comes to actually playing all the moons, how to line, we got to feel it and then we’re good with it. We don’t go out necessarily looking for.

00:18:09:06 – 00:18:10:09
Bunny
Exactly.

00:18:10:11 – 00:18:13:11
Tom
Because we don’t want to get disappointed. And, you.

00:18:13:11 – 00:18:28:16
Bunny
Know, there are a lot of misconceptions for people that are starting off in, into this life that if they go to a club or they go here, they go there, that they’ve got to play with just anybody that asks, absolutely not.

00:18:28:17 – 00:18:52:23
Tom
We’ve heard that from a lot of women. and it’s ironic, though, we heard that from a lot of women, and it’s mostly women. And I’ll tell you how I came up with this. Mostly it’s a women’s idea about getting into the lifestyle. When we ran a club, we ran it for 20 years, and I would whenever a new couple brand new.

00:18:52:23 – 00:19:34:03
Tom
I mean, big, bugged out eyes and just, you know, and I would always just have fun, open up general conversation. And one of my questions was always, whose idea was it to come here? Because our club was the first thing they ever did. The first place they were meeting people, first place they ever went to. So and a lot of times I would probably I mean, it was I don’t even I don’t have a percentage, but it was a high ratio of it was the woman’s idea and it kind of, I kind of shocked me because you were most people think it’s the guy’s idea.

00:19:34:05 – 00:19:39:24
Tom
The guy’s the dog because the guy is the sleazy one. But I’m not saying women are.

00:19:39:26 – 00:19:42:02
Bunny
But it’s.

00:19:42:05 – 00:19:50:01
Tom
I’m just saying that women are just a sexual. But out in the vanilla world, they don’t show up as much.

00:19:50:01 – 00:20:04:01
Bunny
No, not at all. Not at all. And you know, in that, in that kind of poses, one of the other questions that we get all the time from the creepy people that say, how do I how do I, get.

00:20:04:01 – 00:20:04:28
Tom
My wife into it?

00:20:04:29 – 00:20:10:14
Bunny
How do I talk my wife into this? Well, you don’t well, you don’t, you do.

00:20:10:16 – 00:20:12:13
Tom
There’s a way, which is a way.

00:20:12:16 – 00:20:15:17
Bunny
You talk to her about it. Yes.

00:20:15:19 – 00:20:17:01
Tom
You communicate?

00:20:17:03 – 00:20:18:16
Bunny
Yes.

00:20:18:18 – 00:20:43:29
Tom
So, yeah. I have we get probably half of our emails. Our messages we get half are from married men asking either telling us how they wish their wife was like, funny, are asking us how to talk their wife into it, even to the point of asking if we would talk their wife into it.

00:20:43:29 – 00:20:44:28
Bunny
Yeah, and that’s a big no.

00:20:44:29 – 00:20:55:01
Tom
That’s a big no. I mean, well, we’ll answer questions, we’ll talk to people. But the person has to be has to understand that what we’re talking about.

00:20:55:04 – 00:20:56:00
Bunny
Is.

00:20:56:02 – 00:21:04:13
Tom
We know we don’t want to throw out, a jaw dropper and just say, hey, you should wait. I mean, pineapple we.

00:21:04:13 – 00:21:05:20
Bunny
Have and we.

00:21:05:23 – 00:21:05:25
Tom
I.

00:21:06:01 – 00:21:31:12
Bunny
Actually haven’t heard this. The horror stories of, of a couple went to meet a couple, and the wife had no clue what was going on. No clue, because he he did all of the talking, all of the chatting back and forth. He sent all of her pictures to them, and she had no clue whatsoever that she was going on.

00:21:31:13 – 00:21:36:16
Bunny
Well, yeah. And that is just wrong in every sense of the word.

00:21:36:16 – 00:21:55:04
Tom
Yep. And we don’t agree with that. We started our videos. I don’t know how long ago I have to go back and see when the first video was done, but our videos actually started with there was a cup down by. Back then there was only a few content creators.

00:21:55:04 – 00:21:55:23
Bunny
Yeah there was.

00:21:55:24 – 00:22:18:15
Tom
We weren’t even a content creator at the time. We were just running a club. Yeah, and one thing that we noticed at the club was the pineapple. They didn’t call it pineapple people back then. They call them and cheers. I mean, let’s bring it back to where it is. They keep changing the terminology faster than we can keep.

00:22:18:15 – 00:22:22:15
Bunny
Oh, we we came along not too long after. Key part is.

00:22:22:19 – 00:22:53:24
Tom
Right. our wife. You a press? And I gotta say this because of the algorithm, so bear with me on this. But. So we had seen a video where the couple said s pineapple world was the best thing for your marriage, and you should get into it. And I looked at Bunny and I said, that is probably I could see divorce forces happening.

00:22:53:27 – 00:22:56:02
Bunny
And,

00:22:56:04 – 00:23:03:01
Tom
we set up our camera in our living room, because I go overboard and we say.

00:23:03:03 – 00:23:03:29
Bunny
Go big or go home.

00:23:03:29 – 00:23:30:11
Tom
Yeah. We set up a lighting, soft boxes, everything. And our first video was communication is the most important thing in your relationship. If you can communicate about anything, everything under the sun, you can not. I mean, it’s embarrassing. And if you could just muscle through the embarrassment and talk to your spouse.

00:23:30:14 – 00:23:32:23
Bunny
No, no no no. If you if.

00:23:32:26 – 00:23:34:26
Tom
I kiss, a lot of things are embarrassing to talk.

00:23:34:26 – 00:23:41:10
Bunny
I want to say, if you can ask your husband, hey, do I have a hair in my buttcrack you can talk about anything.

00:23:41:10 – 00:23:53:17
Tom
Wow. I did not expect that one, but yeah, if you could talk about a hair on your buttcrack, we could probably talk about pretty much everything.

00:23:53:17 – 00:23:54:22
Bunny
Yeah, exactly.

00:23:54:22 – 00:24:05:06
Tom
So if you could talk about your penile implant, you could probably talk about anything to everybody. if you want to go that route.

00:24:05:07 – 00:24:07:05
Bunny
Of course. Of course you got that right.

00:24:07:06 – 00:24:37:03
Tom
But, yeah, the the biggest thing is we don’t talk to wives. If you don’t, we never hear from wives talking the husbands into this. I mean, that’s probably the easier target, but we don’t talk to wives. I mean, we’ll answer the wives questions. We’ve actually had wives contact us and say, hey, my husband watched one of your videos and said communication is the best thing, and he brought up the pineapple world.

00:24:37:05 – 00:24:46:00
Tom
I have serious questions. Can I ask you questions? Absolutely. Yeah, we want, but we’re only giving our opinion.

00:24:46:03 – 00:24:47:13
Bunny
But yes.

00:24:47:16 – 00:24:48:06
Tom
What works for.

00:24:48:06 – 00:24:59:20
Bunny
Us, I mean, we’re an open book. If you call us and ask us questions or you want you have any concerns, definitely. We’ll talk to you. but I’m not going to try to talk somebody into it.

00:24:59:21 – 00:25:16:17
Tom
Right. And there is a whole lot of gamut to lifestyle people. starting off with there are you don’t actually have to physically, connect with somebody to be in this world.

00:25:16:19 – 00:25:29:20
Bunny
No, no. You know, we used to have a lot of people that came to our club that they just they were more exhibitionists. So they wanted to come dance erotically, pull their boobies out of their dress.

00:25:29:21 – 00:25:31:20
Tom
Right. So they want to be older.

00:25:31:22 – 00:25:41:15
Bunny
So we had that from, from all the way up. You imagine what people could do. And they did it. Yes. So there’s so much.

00:25:41:16 – 00:26:05:15
Tom
People just like to be around the pineapple people because the pineapple people are so much more honest and open. And now in today’s terminology now mind you we go back 2527 years in the pineapple world. So I’m going to kind of say terminology we use back then that we would get slaughtered for using today.

00:26:05:18 – 00:26:06:10
Bunny
Yes.

00:26:06:10 – 00:26:32:13
Tom
What our thought was if a couple came to our club and they didn’t want to, they didn’t want to physically touch another person. They just wanted to hang out, drink, have a good time, dance erotically, like Barney said, maybe get a little bit of naked. on the dance floor, or get up on our pole and be a stripper for a song or two for their husband.

00:26:32:15 – 00:26:44:12
Tom
We always said, and this is work. Don’t slaughter me. This is just what the mentality was 20 some years ago. One drink shy of being a pineapple world.

00:26:44:14 – 00:26:46:00
Bunny
True. Very true.

00:26:46:05 – 00:26:51:13
Tom
So drinking is a big thing in the pineapple world.

00:26:51:16 – 00:26:56:01
Bunny
it can make. It can make you make mistakes, too.

00:26:56:01 – 00:27:19:17
Tom
It can make you make a. But you just have to know that when you start drinking, you gotta own up to your. Yes, any mistakes that you feel you made and just get past that? because obviously the other people, they may be aware that you’re overly intoxicated, they may not be aware because they are just as intoxicated.

00:27:19:24 – 00:27:32:17
Tom
So hey, Mimi, I’m funny, have different thoughts around all the politically correct going around. If we if we lived by politically correct, there would be no pineapple World.

00:27:32:19 – 00:27:33:10
Bunny
No.

00:27:33:13 – 00:27:44:00
Tom
There wouldn’t be because everyone is going to find fault somewhere. And they have to rephrase the terminology because they they fault even the terminology so much.

00:27:44:00 – 00:27:45:00
Bunny
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:45:05 – 00:27:46:02
Tom
It’s it’s.

00:27:46:02 – 00:27:46:14
Bunny
Very.

00:27:46:14 – 00:27:50:04
Tom
Offended by certain phrases are words.

00:27:50:04 – 00:27:55:11
Bunny
Yeah. It’s very, very and it’s really hard to keep up with that because.

00:27:55:13 – 00:28:03:23
Tom
because before our terminology would change every five plus years now it seems like it changes every year.

00:28:03:24 – 00:28:07:01
Bunny
Oh it’s funny, Tom’s a tick tock guy.

00:28:07:04 – 00:28:08:14
Tom
I am a tick tock guy.

00:28:08:17 – 00:28:29:28
Bunny
if you see my tick tocks, they’re all dogs. I my dog is dogs. So there will be words that come out or phrases that come out. And I have to ask Tom, what does this mean? It’s like, are you kidding me? Right? I’m so far behind. But you know what? It’s where I’m comfortable with.

00:28:30:00 – 00:28:33:17
Tom
And this all entails what? Where we are.

00:28:33:19 – 00:28:34:23
Bunny
but no, that’s talking.

00:28:34:23 – 00:28:36:16
Tom
About the original sub.

00:28:36:17 – 00:28:53:07
Bunny
Yeah. So we. But, you know, I basically told her, hey, this is your life years and your husband’s life. You do with it however you want to go. And our our saying is always, you can only go as fast as the slowest person, right?

00:28:53:08 – 00:28:55:13
Tom
You and you. You can’t.

00:28:55:15 – 00:28:59:29
Bunny
You can’t fault each other for somebody being slower than the other one.

00:28:59:29 – 00:29:11:09
Tom
I only said that because I’m watching the microphones go up and down, and when funny turns my direction, I watch it go down. And then when she turns back. So it’s, not a blast. It’s just, I get blasted for.

00:29:11:10 – 00:29:12:28
Bunny
I know, I know, for me.

00:29:13:03 – 00:29:18:25
Tom
We talked to each other because I read lips and I have my cochlear on so I can actually hear.

00:29:18:28 – 00:29:19:09
Bunny
On this.

00:29:19:09 – 00:29:25:03
Tom
Side, on this side. Now, if she was on this side, I’d be like, why?

00:29:25:05 – 00:29:34:12
Bunny
But did you even hear what I said? No, she. This is what I live with. He had no clue what I even said.

00:29:34:13 – 00:29:35:18
Tom
Said all over again.

00:29:35:20 – 00:29:37:11
Bunny
I said, you can only go as.

00:29:37:14 – 00:29:39:11
Tom
Fast as the slowest person. I did hear.

00:29:39:11 – 00:29:40:10
Bunny
That. What I said after that.

00:29:40:13 – 00:29:41:04
Tom
I don’t know.

00:29:41:06 – 00:29:46:12
Bunny
You can’t fault each other for somebody going slower than the other one.

00:29:46:14 – 00:30:20:07
Tom
Correct. And my, my thing. I always tell couples, especially new new couples talk, talk, talk meaning talk before you go anywhere or meet anybody or anything but scenarios in your head. I know it’s kind of, it could get stressful. You can get anxieties. Yeah, but you should be prepared for the encounter. If you’re going to meet a couple at a bar or dinner, do you have an out?

00:30:20:10 – 00:30:40:08
Tom
I mean, because you could walk in and as Bonnie says, the first two, three, four words out of a guy’s mouth, she knows right then and there if she even wants to communicate any further. So you got to have an out and the babysitter thing doesn’t work. Don’t get a fake phone call. Go get the babysitter out.

00:30:40:08 – 00:30:57:25
Tom
Gotta go. No, no, just be honest. Just say, hey, we don’t think it’s going to work out and we don’t want to waste your time. And we don’t want to spend $150 on a dinner sitting with people. We have no nothing in common with. You don’t have to be that dramatic. But you.

00:30:57:25 – 00:30:58:16
Bunny
Have.

00:30:58:19 – 00:30:59:10
Tom
My buddy.

00:30:59:12 – 00:30:59:20
Bunny
Buddy.

00:30:59:20 – 00:31:22:17
Tom
Turn her back on a couple. But the guy was an arrogant chauvinist. Yes. So when she did that, I’m a nice guy. I had to sit there for 45 minutes and endure the other couple. Meanwhile, Bonnie has her back. She’s talking to another table. She’s talking the waitresses. And this guy thinks he has a chance with her. And I’m like, you don’t read body language.

00:31:22:20 – 00:31:34:11
Tom
Apparently it’s a deaf skill because I can read body language, facial expressions, lips. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when someone turns their back on me, I know. Okay, it’s time to end.

00:31:34:11 – 00:31:48:28
Bunny
You know, we’ve been we’ve been in this long enough to that we know each other’s, what are each other’s likes and dislikes. And so, I mean, we both will almost no immediate leave.

00:31:49:01 – 00:32:18:17
Tom
Oh, yeah. I mean, so, Harry Harrison out for new couples that we used to use, and it worked really, really well. It still works today. Not so much for us, because if people have seen our videos, but in the conversation within so much time, you can actually talk about the weather. No matter if it’s hot or cold, rainy doesn’t matter.

00:32:18:21 – 00:32:44:10
Tom
You could talk about the weather, but the weather is the code for you guys. So I would look at Bonnie and, all right, look at the general conversation. I would say if I was interested in, other female, I would say, Holy cow. Bonnie, did you see that record temperature in Arizona? And Bonnie would reply back either.

00:32:44:10 – 00:32:56:01
Tom
Yeah, it was really hot. Meaning she was hot for the other guy, or she would talk about how call that was in Iowa.

00:32:56:03 – 00:33:18:21
Tom
Immediately, if she said the word cold, I knew that it was time to start backing out of the conversation and oh, because we don’t want, rooster block another couple ever. So there’s no reason, especially in a club setting our hotel take over, that you occupy someone’s time because they’re in a very short time frame.

00:33:18:28 – 00:33:32:18
Bunny
And you will find people, and people go, oh, that was really rude. But no, it’s not rude. The people will come up and be like, you know, within the first five minutes, hey, are you guys players? Would you be interested?

00:33:32:20 – 00:33:34:27
Tom
Hold on. We we like to get to know people.

00:33:34:27 – 00:33:51:22
Bunny
Yeah, I mean, we I met this one couple one time and they literally came up and they sat at our table and they go, so do you think there’s a chance of us and they said the word f u c k. And I’m like, nope. And he goes, hey, great guess. now you just saved me an hour, right?

00:33:51:22 – 00:34:17:02
Tom
And we were all good with that. And they’re no offense. they’re there is going to be a very high, high, high probability unless you’re in it for play. And there’s nothing wrong with that either. Absolutely not that you won’t make a match with other people. There are people that go to parties and don’t hook up multiple parties, many parties.

00:34:17:04 – 00:34:20:21
Tom
Then there’s people that go to a party and hook up ten times in one.

00:34:20:21 – 00:34:31:08
Bunny
Night, and there’s people that just absolutely love sex and they don’t care with who. And more power to them. I mean, it is you.

00:34:31:10 – 00:34:35:05
Tom
At the pineapple world. You see a lot of people lose focus on that.

00:34:35:10 – 00:34:44:28
Bunny
But and then, like I said, there’s other ones that might once a year and there is nothing wrong with where you go with this.

00:34:44:28 – 00:34:45:19
Tom
Right.

00:34:45:22 – 00:34:53:28
Bunny
And so I am going to lead us right into an advertising life, not an advertising.

00:34:53:28 – 00:34:55:07
Tom
We’re not advertising nothing.

00:34:55:07 – 00:34:57:15
Bunny
Nope. So I basically told you.

00:34:57:16 – 00:35:00:24
Tom
Say the word advertising. You’re you’re going to lose half of our honey.

00:35:00:25 – 00:35:02:05
Bunny
All right. So we’re not advertising.

00:35:02:08 – 00:35:03:29
Tom
Except for Tom’s trips.

00:35:04:02 – 00:35:11:04
Bunny
Exactly. So I told her because she had so many different questions on different things that I couldn’t answer her on.

00:35:11:10 – 00:35:11:21
Tom
Right.

00:35:11:27 – 00:35:16:10
Bunny
So I told her there is a great convention coming up at the end of June.

00:35:16:10 – 00:35:20:17
Tom
We actually wrote down a list of the places we’re going to be. Yeah, through the month of June.

00:35:20:17 – 00:35:40:10
Bunny
But if for any of you that are really, really new to this and that, want to explore different options and different things and learn at different seminars and, talk to thousands of people nodding in New Orleans. Yeah, it’s the place to be.

00:35:40:13 – 00:35:54:09
Tom
Yeah. It is the world’s largest pineapple convention, and upwards to 2500 people on Bourbon Street for 4 or 5 days now. We’ll be there for.

00:35:54:13 – 00:35:57:08
Bunny
We come in Wednesday morning and it.

00:35:57:08 – 00:36:00:19
Tom
Starts on Tuesday, but it’s mild on TV.

00:36:00:19 – 00:36:01:25
Bunny
Yeah. Where do you.

00:36:01:25 – 00:36:06:04
Tom
Say it starts building Thursday and Friday.

00:36:06:07 – 00:36:06:18
Bunny
Yeah.

00:36:06:20 – 00:36:08:01
Tom
Be prepared.

00:36:08:03 – 00:36:16:22
Bunny
So you’re going to eat there. Things start at 10 a.m.. I mean from different seminars on newbies to.

00:36:16:24 – 00:36:17:12
Tom
Massage.

00:36:17:13 – 00:36:26:29
Bunny
Massages to speed dating to poorly. by the way, you name it, you’re going to find it there.

00:36:27:07 – 00:36:33:25
Tom
And most seminars are free. There are some paid ones, but if they’re paid, there’s a reason why.

00:36:34:00 – 00:36:34:15
Bunny
And not.

00:36:34:16 – 00:36:35:15
Tom
You got to sign up for.

00:36:35:15 – 00:36:40:26
Bunny
Those. And there just seminars. There’s, Bourbon Street parties.

00:36:40:26 – 00:36:52:23
Tom
There’s couples. The seminars are. Yeah. Would be probably key. then, you, you start off at noon party.

00:36:52:25 – 00:36:53:19
Bunny
Start your party.

00:36:53:19 – 00:37:17:22
Tom
Honestly, there are two parties that start at noon every single day. and then at 3:00, two more open up and noon one is kind of, shut down and they open up for, but they are closed off to only the attendees for this convention. It is so bold, seem to get in that the line starts almost an hour before the event.

00:37:17:25 – 00:37:38:21
Tom
Tom’s trips, me and Bonnie will be there along with our host, Mike and Denise, and we will be doing. We’re not sure yet. you know, it’s probably going to be fat cats on Friday at noon. And if you’re going to be an audience, we invite you to join us at noon at Fat Cats.

00:37:38:23 – 00:37:41:10
Bunny
You are very positive that you’re going to get that time.

00:37:41:10 – 00:37:53:21
Tom
Slot. I think I think we are. And if it’s not fat cats, it’ll be bandstand. But I think it’s going to be fat cats because that with I got the choice, parties and I put fat cats as the priority.

00:37:53:21 – 00:38:11:16
Bunny
Yeah. So but, you know, it’s just a great place to go and to meet people. And then after that, and before they have the ballroom parties at 9:00 at night, they have multiple meet and greets on what you’re looking for. Yeah. Five couples poly couples fetish.

00:38:11:19 – 00:38:30:27
Tom
And their priority. so if you’re, by a couple you’re not going to be out in the lobby. They’re actually going to have a room specifically. So that way you don’t have lurkers or people leering to see who the by couples are.

00:38:30:28 – 00:38:31:20
Bunny
Yeah.

00:38:31:22 – 00:38:39:18
Tom
they’ll actually have to go into the room. Poly couples, they’ll probably have their own room, and then they’ll have a main meet and greet. And that’s the ballroom.

00:38:39:18 – 00:38:45:19
Bunny
Now, currently, I mean, we are only three weeks out or weeks out from this major event.

00:38:45:21 – 00:38:48:22
Tom
The 2nd June 28th through the 30th.

00:38:48:25 – 00:38:56:10
Bunny
The two main hotels are already sold out, but they do have another overflow hotel. I mean, Tom and I are not even staying in the main hotel.

00:38:56:11 – 00:38:57:05
Tom
No.

00:38:57:07 – 00:39:09:27
Bunny
We are staying off. We’re only staying a block away, but it’s just going to be, great. Great week and a very good learning for the newbies.

00:39:10:01 – 00:39:22:08
Tom
And these events are great to just go to, not just not in all ones, but there’s a lot of hotel takeovers. There’s, we’re going we’re going to sooner swing. We’re leaving at four in the morning.

00:39:22:08 – 00:39:23:13
Bunny
Yep. So yeah.

00:39:23:14 – 00:39:27:28
Tom
Four in the morning. This video will actually come out after we’ve looked here.

00:39:27:29 – 00:39:35:22
Bunny
Yes. So I mean we’re going to sooner swing in Oklahoma. They already have over 800 people coming for this weekend.

00:39:35:23 – 00:39:37:07
Tom
Hundreds of people at a.

00:39:37:07 – 00:39:43:05
Bunny
Campground, at a campground. also going on this weekend, it’s the splash party.

00:39:43:05 – 00:39:43:15
Tom
Yeah.

00:39:43:15 – 00:39:51:20
Bunny
And Atlanta and Atlanta, which is another really good sign that, we’ve been to splash. We have not.

00:39:51:20 – 00:39:52:19
Tom
Been to Lauderdale.

00:39:52:22 – 00:39:56:08
Bunny
We have not been to Atlanta.

00:39:56:09 – 00:39:57:11
Tom
No, we haven’t been to it.

00:39:57:14 – 00:40:13:04
Bunny
But we will because it’s only four hours from us. Right. But, they have splash parties in Atlanta, Fort Lauderdale and Houston, Houston. And so there’s so many great, great. Right.

00:40:13:04 – 00:40:30:25
Tom
And like I say, then there’s all the hotel takeovers. I mean, there’s just so many. We can’t even list them all. Then you got your regular clubs. Now the club we’re going to go to, not this weekend but the next Friday. We’re only go in there Friday night because we’re going to a wedding Saturday.

00:40:31:01 – 00:40:36:14
Bunny
So Friday, June 7th, we will be at the corral.

00:40:36:16 – 00:40:39:02
Tom
You know, that’s that corral welcome.

00:40:39:07 – 00:40:40:04
Bunny
With the K.

00:40:40:06 – 00:40:50:19
Tom
Yeah. So if you want to meet us, come out Friday night. I don’t know how late they will be there, but, we’re going to we’re we’re leaving here Thursday. They get there for Friday.

00:40:50:19 – 00:40:53:20
Bunny
So that’s the corral and Spring Grove, Pennsylvania.

00:40:53:20 – 00:41:00:18
Tom
Yes. And some people have asked. I’m four hours away. Five hours away. We’re 12 and we’re driving.

00:41:00:20 – 00:41:01:21
Bunny
So.

00:41:01:23 – 00:41:17:26
Tom
Yeah, they always say, is it worth it? I don’t know if it’s worth it for you or not. It is for us. We absolutely love the car. We love the people. We would recommend it to anybody, but we don’t want somebody say, oh, Tom, my buddy recommended it and we hated it because it’s not your cup of tea.

00:41:17:26 – 00:41:18:23
Bunny
It’s this.

00:41:18:24 – 00:41:25:23
Tom
It’s something that you should experience on your own the first time and make your own decision.

00:41:25:25 – 00:41:32:12
Bunny
It’s in in. It’s bad. It’s bad to say. But Tom and I have a rule. You always try things twice.

00:41:32:14 – 00:41:34:07
Tom
Because maybe.

00:41:34:09 – 00:41:35:18
Bunny
Make.

00:41:35:20 – 00:41:37:20
Tom
Or sometimes you.

00:41:37:22 – 00:41:50:24
Bunny
Yeah, but we’ve gone back to different places and we had a completely different feel. Right. Just it every night. And we know this from running an on premise club for 20 years, every night is different than the.

00:41:50:24 – 00:42:18:13
Tom
Other every single night. And if you have a bad experience one night, you might have a phenomenal experience. You might have a phenomenal experience. Can’t wait to get back. And it doesn’t meet your expectations. And you leave there with a negative thought in your head. Just remember it varies per the party theme. The day of the week. If you’re going during Mother’s Day weekend, it’s going to suck.

00:42:18:16 – 00:42:31:29
Bunny
Yeah, typically, if you’re going on a three day weekend like Memorial Day or Labor Day, they generally are a lot slower because everybody’s out on their boat. So we have our little theme vacations. So yeah.

00:42:32:02 – 00:42:48:22
Tom
Graduation. So it of you got to look at the holidays. You got to look at what is happening around that might, detract from yeah, the venue. And if there is nothing going on around your venues, probably going to be hopping.

00:42:48:25 – 00:43:00:26
Bunny
Well, I know, there’s a club in Iowa and, the Friday opening Friday night fair, they just closed the club because no one’s going to be there. Right? Everybody goes to the Iowa State Fair.

00:43:00:28 – 00:43:02:03
Tom
Yeah.

00:43:02:05 – 00:43:03:25
Bunny
So, I mean, yeah.

00:43:03:27 – 00:43:08:13
Tom
We actually lived in Iowa for a year and a half. Don’t ask us why.

00:43:08:16 – 00:43:09:07
Bunny
We don’t even know.

00:43:09:09 – 00:43:12:21
Tom
We actually started our pineapple.

00:43:12:24 – 00:43:15:26
Bunny
And we did our, I guess, our journey, our.

00:43:15:26 – 00:43:16:17
Tom
Journey.

00:43:16:17 – 00:43:18:07
Bunny
Our pineapple journey started.

00:43:18:07 – 00:43:25:26
Tom
Living in a small town of 800 people was a no no, 898. We had 96 houses, 96 houses.

00:43:25:26 – 00:43:27:17
Bunny
It did have 97, but one burned.

00:43:27:19 – 00:44:02:20
Tom
Out there and the fire department watched it burn down. And, so anyway, we’ll be at the corral, not this Friday, but next Friday, June 7th. Yeah, seven. Then what’s the next hedonism? We’re back to hedonism and we will be there with Cassidy. Crush. Cassidy crush is. It’s a younger crowd because we actually time around teachers. Yes, because the teachers wanted to come, but they had school and everything, so we kind of navigated it to where they can attend.

00:44:02:26 – 00:44:12:23
Tom
So it tends to be a little on the younger side. And when I say younger side, it’s not 1821. It’s probably in mid 30s,

00:44:12:25 – 00:44:14:16
Bunny
Or like 40s or.

00:44:14:19 – 00:44:19:24
Tom
The 40s. Yeah. So we’re the old ones. We are, we’re the cool and Uncle.

00:44:20:19 – 00:44:21:27
Tom
Well, that’s what they tell us.

00:44:21:27 – 00:44:23:04
Bunny
I know.

00:44:23:06 – 00:44:26:22
Tom
But what? They kick us out of bed. Fruit and crackers, you know.

00:44:26:24 – 00:44:27:13
Bunny
Maybe not.

00:44:27:13 – 00:44:30:13
Tom
We’ll have to find out.

00:44:30:16 – 00:44:32:14
Bunny
maybe not this time, though.

00:44:32:17 – 00:44:39:28
Tom
And then when? This time. Then we come back in three days later where we do our lines for Nadia and Mullins.

00:44:40:00 – 00:44:45:04
Bunny
And you know what? I. I’m very, very giddy about going back to Nadia. It’s been it’s.

00:44:45:06 – 00:44:46:20
Tom
It’s been five years. It’s.

00:44:46:26 – 00:44:51:25
Bunny
Yeah. Because we didn’t get 2019 was the last time we went.

00:44:52:02 – 00:44:52:24
Tom
There you go.

00:44:52:26 – 00:44:55:28
Bunny
And so. So it was our.

00:44:56:01 – 00:45:04:17
Tom
Claim to fame is we were awarded our how when they announce are they. We were.

00:45:04:20 – 00:45:06:00
Bunny
Presented as.

00:45:06:02 – 00:45:25:13
Tom
We are presented as the king and queen. not in New Orleans on Bourbon Street and we got to ride in a float. The the, bunch of guys push these floats down. Yeah. Previous kings and queens and other Royal Corps. So that was actually kind of fun. Actually. It was a lot of fun.

00:45:25:13 – 00:45:32:07
Bunny
It was a lot of fun. And naughty in New Orleans has always been our one of our favorite events to go to.

00:45:32:10 – 00:45:42:11
Tom
Because there’s so much going on. I mean, you do breakfast, lunch and dinner on your own. I mean, they do have, a brunch, and.

00:45:42:14 – 00:45:43:12
Bunny
I don’t even know if they’re I.

00:45:43:12 – 00:45:48:14
Tom
Don’t think they’re having it anymore because it’s really a that’s a hard one to,

00:45:48:16 – 00:45:51:07
Bunny
There’s a lot of. They have pizza at midnight.

00:45:51:08 – 00:46:10:17
Tom
Yeah. If you’re in the playrooms, they bring in, like, hundreds of pizzas, and some people will just go up to the playroom just to get pizza and people like, oh, no, no, no, it’s all sanitary. It’s good. Yeah. And that’s probably some of the best pizza. I don’t remember the name of the place, but Crescent City pizza.

00:46:10:17 – 00:46:11:21
Bunny
And do they get it from Crescent?

00:46:11:21 – 00:46:15:14
Tom
I believe so, because that’s where, we got it for Cassidy.

00:46:15:14 – 00:46:20:28
Bunny
That’s what we’re having for lunch on that one Tuesday, I remember. Yep. That’s the first thing we’re having for lunch on that Wednesday.

00:46:20:28 – 00:46:28:15
Tom
If you haven’t had Crescent City Pizza on Bourbon Street, every place sells pizza. Crescent city sells really good pizza.

00:46:28:17 – 00:46:36:01
Bunny
And it’s it’s down there. It’s probably a good 4 or 5 blocks from the from the resort. And it doesn’t.

00:46:36:03 – 00:46:36:28
Tom
Matter if you’re walking.

00:46:36:28 – 00:46:37:05
Bunny
From.

00:46:37:05 – 00:46:43:11
Tom
Canal Street down Bourbon Street. Yeah. Towards the, pirate bar.

00:46:43:13 – 00:46:44:22
Bunny
Oh, John Lafitte’s. Yeah.

00:46:44:28 – 00:46:58:03
Tom
And you, everyone has to go there. That’s pretty much the end of Bourbon Street. Yeah. So you walk from Canal all the way down to John the Feets and it’s all candlelit. It’s like you’re in the 1700s. It’s really cool.

00:46:58:03 – 00:47:08:24
Bunny
So, yeah, I’m really, really looking forward to going back. And, you know, and for us, it’s like being newbies all over again too, because it’s been so long.

00:47:08:24 – 00:47:09:27
Tom
So we’re going to be fresh meat.

00:47:09:28 – 00:47:12:27
Bunny
We are going to be freshmen, but no one’s going to know who we are.

00:47:12:28 – 00:47:15:18
Tom
I don’t know if my name.

00:47:15:19 – 00:47:16:08
Bunny
Yeah, I don’t.

00:47:16:08 – 00:47:24:13
Tom
Know if it’s gonna work yet or not. I it works, but I don’t know. It’s still painful. Yeah, yeah. So I, I’m going to have to heel for a while.

00:47:24:14 – 00:47:27:04
Bunny
I have to be very, very gentle, very gentle.

00:47:27:07 – 00:47:28:05
Tom
Just lay there.

00:47:28:05 – 00:47:28:18
Bunny
And leave.

00:47:28:18 – 00:47:29:16
Tom
Time. Don’t move.

00:47:29:18 – 00:47:30:07
Bunny
And we’ve talked.

00:47:30:07 – 00:47:31:15
Tom
Before. Lock your hips.

00:47:31:16 – 00:47:33:21
Bunny
We’ve talked before. I’m not really gentle.

00:47:33:21 – 00:47:34:22
Tom
Don’t push back.

00:47:34:26 – 00:47:38:06
Bunny
Don’t just lay there.

00:47:38:06 – 00:47:40:06
Tom
Just let me do my thing.

00:47:40:08 – 00:47:41:18
Bunny
Just be a pillow princess.

00:47:41:19 – 00:47:45:06
Tom
There you go. Yep. So, yeah, I know.

00:47:45:08 – 00:47:48:09
Bunny
That’s not easy for me.

00:47:48:11 – 00:48:17:10
Tom
We I mean, we’re we’re looking forward. We’re going to be going to more larger events. We’ve been going to more clubs in more specific locations like the corral, vibe and Nashville. Yeah. Our Murfreesboro. we’re going to specific clubs. We have a host couple that go to trapeze, and they’re going to tempted in Lexington, this month.

00:48:17:14 – 00:48:20:19
Bunny
Yep. June 14th, June 15th and 16th.

00:48:20:19 – 00:48:37:03
Tom
Okay. So but I mean, you’re meeting the, general location of that specific club we like to go to where people travel in, like, splash party. not in the hotel parties.

00:48:37:04 – 00:48:38:28
Bunny
I mean, we just came back from Vegas.

00:48:38:28 – 00:48:42:04
Tom
Yep. And there was a lot of people that flew in for that one.

00:48:42:07 – 00:48:55:04
Bunny
Yeah. So it it we’re kind of getting back to, almost like a grassroots yacht, which is what we started and, and we’re just ready to hit the ground running again.

00:48:55:12 – 00:49:03:00
Tom
Right. So again, the best thing to do is and I didn’t finish off, I talked about talking about.

00:49:03:00 – 00:49:05:26
Bunny
Finished off this morning.

00:49:05:28 – 00:49:12:14
Tom
Wow. We talked about discussing all the, hypotheticals.

00:49:12:14 – 00:49:12:29
Bunny
Yes.

00:49:13:05 – 00:49:37:08
Tom
But what we didn’t talk about is me and Bonnie always discuss when we come home at night. No two things happen. Whether anything happen or not. We discuss what we liked about the night, what we didn’t care for or anything like that. But what if if nothing happened? We. You do have to question why did nothing happen? Was it us?

00:49:37:09 – 00:49:44:04
Tom
Was it them? Was it one of us? Why were we putting that? Don’t approach us.

00:49:44:07 – 00:49:48:05
Bunny
It usually stems from bunny tops. Too much.

00:49:48:09 – 00:49:57:19
Tom
Yes, but I talk too much on camera. So I could talk forever on camera. But when it’s out of club, I know when to shut up.

00:49:57:21 – 00:50:04:16
Bunny
But it’s kind of even. Even after all these years, you still get giddy and you still get nervous.

00:50:04:18 – 00:50:25:00
Tom
Oh, we still. Oh yeah, we still get really nervous. And people are like, oh, you’re the experienced people. No no no no, no, we don’t play that much. We really don’t play that much. And we’re fine with that. the, the main focus is it’s us.

00:50:25:06 – 00:50:25:21
Bunny
Yes.

00:50:25:22 – 00:50:29:27
Tom
And we won’t let anything interfere with our relation itself.

00:50:29:29 – 00:50:30:15
Bunny
No.

00:50:30:17 – 00:50:56:27
Tom
So we won’t take one for the team now, taking one for the team is such a nagging negative connotation. Taking one for the team just means one of you are physically attracted to the other person. It doesn’t mean they’re a bad person or anything like that. It just means that you don’t want to get physically intimate with someone you’re not physically attracted to.

00:50:56:29 – 00:51:21:07
Tom
And unfortunately, in this pineapple world there, there’s a lot of mismatched couples. Me and buddy are probably mismatched to a lot of other couples. Couples may want Bunny, but not me. they may want me and not Bunny. I know that’s the rarity. I know I’m pat myself on the back stroking my own ego here, but it is what it is.

00:51:21:09 – 00:51:42:26
Tom
Whatever. one of our encounters was, hedonism, and it just happened to be a single female and a single guy. Yeah. So it worked out. It did really well. because it was a couple that one of us was hit or miss on.

00:51:42:27 – 00:52:07:05
Bunny
Right? Right. And, you know, and think it happens. I mean, like you said, the stars aligned, at that. But our biggest thing is we always come home and we talk about it. And, if, and this is the new, new phrase, but we always say we, we, we claim each other if we played, but I don’t call it reclaim.

00:52:07:05 – 00:52:08:18
Bunny
We reconnect.

00:52:08:21 – 00:52:32:01
Tom
Yeah. So after if we do have a physical encounter with somebody, I’m using the right proper wording that doesn’t get us kicked off the algorithm. You if we have a physical interaction with another couple, sometimes there are single females, sometimes there are single men. But we focus more on, both of us playing.

00:52:32:06 – 00:52:32:29
Bunny
Yes.

00:52:33:01 – 00:52:53:21
Tom
Our interacting. Yes. So when we do come home, we get physically intimate with each other. Because the last thing I want to do is one of us doesn’t wake up in the morning, and the other one has to go through the rest of their life knowing that the last person that person was physically intimate with was not me.

00:52:53:23 – 00:52:58:00
Tom
So call it, low self-esteem.

00:52:58:03 – 00:53:12:01
Bunny
It. This is a morbid, even a morbid thought, but we’ve even discussed it. If if there’s anything that happens in the middle of play and God forbid, you know, one of us has a heart attack, you push off the other partner and jump on.

00:53:12:04 – 00:53:24:28
Tom
Oh, and if I have the heart attack, Bunny knows how to. Well, she has to learn how to fight the new one. But I don’t want to go to the morgue or the hospital with, a stiffy.

00:53:25:01 – 00:53:26:03
Bunny
What did they. What did?

00:53:26:03 – 00:53:41:20
Tom
That one they called a forklift. Because there’s two tubes, and I. In a future video, I’ll show you what the whole implant looks like. But there’s a tube on each side of the shaft, so they call it a forklift because they’re both,

00:53:41:22 – 00:53:42:01
Bunny
Yeah.

00:53:42:08 – 00:54:02:12
Tom
So I don’t want to be called a forklift. So I got to show Bunny where the new button is because it was high right now it’s low middle. Yeah. So yeah, it’s something happens to me. She’s just going to press. I also have to do with press for a second and then it will eventually go down all on its own.

00:54:02:14 – 00:54:09:04
Bunny
I’m not a crazy driver. We’re crazy. We’re. Yeah, but hey, that’s us. That’s us.

00:54:09:05 – 00:54:09:17
Tom
What are we?

00:54:09:20 – 00:54:14:25
Bunny
So, We’re, Time to go pack.

00:54:14:28 – 00:54:15:25
Tom
What time?

00:54:15:27 – 00:54:17:20
Bunny
We’re at 53 minutes. Oh, we’re.

00:54:17:26 – 00:54:18:10
Tom
Under an.

00:54:18:10 – 00:54:23:08
Bunny
Hour. Yeah, I told you, I know it’s giving me 30 minutes.

00:54:23:10 – 00:54:28:01
Tom
Yeah, well, we always start off our video saying we’re going to be 30 minutes, and then.

00:54:28:04 – 00:54:28:17
Bunny
Right.

00:54:28:18 – 00:54:30:20
Tom
One of us doesn’t shut up.

00:54:30:22 – 00:54:38:27
Bunny
It’s because now I’m looking at it. Tom wants to go to bed in one hour and 40 minutes. We still have to make dinner and we still have to pack in the car.

00:54:39:03 – 00:54:42:10
Tom
we’ll probably go out to dinner.

00:54:42:12 – 00:54:47:25
Bunny
I I’m to send Tom to the store for a dinner run, and I’ll finish packing.

00:54:47:28 – 00:55:15:14
Tom
So if you want to meet us, definitely. I got to update our Tom and money.com. I, I stopped doing it for a while because we were getting some stalkers, and I’ll be honest, they made us very nervous putting out too early where we are going to go. Yes. Sometimes it’s better to put out after you’ve gone, and then they can learn about it and then book next year and stuff like that.

00:55:15:16 – 00:55:38:03
Tom
So but yeah, we just told you where we’re going to be for June. I know it’s for short notice, but if you’d like to meet us, not in noggins, it’s naughty hyphen. the-events.com aren’t go to Tom strobes.com and just scroll down. Yeah don’t go to night hyphen events because we make a commission. If you just book it and it cost you no more.

00:55:38:06 – 00:55:41:22
Bunny
So yeah go to Tom’s tips.com and it’s underneath.

00:55:41:25 – 00:55:43:08
Tom
just scroll down to main page and.

00:55:43:08 – 00:55:43:19
Bunny
You’ll see.

00:55:43:19 – 00:55:45:19
Tom
It and just click on the naughty.

00:55:45:19 – 00:55:49:02
Bunny
And I. And I know it works because somebody just booked one today.

00:55:49:04 – 00:55:49:20
Tom
Oh did.

00:55:49:22 – 00:55:52:12
Bunny
Yes. Oh.

00:55:52:14 – 00:56:16:11
Tom
So and that’s how we’re able to do these videos. Yeah. You support us by booking travel. It costs you no more money and you might save money depending on like our group trips to hedonism. You actually save money booking to Tom’s trips. And we are the leader, the leader in hedonism. Travel throughout the year with over 20 group trips.

00:56:16:11 – 00:56:19:23
Tom
We book more rooms at hedonism than anybody else.

00:56:19:25 – 00:56:20:18
Bunny
That we do for.

00:56:20:18 – 00:56:23:09
Tom
30 years our company has been in business.

00:56:23:11 – 00:56:31:21
Bunny
Yes, yes, we’ve been really working hard to come at. We making a big comeback after Covid.

00:56:31:21 – 00:56:33:01
Tom
Covid was having.

00:56:33:01 – 00:56:47:19
Bunny
Her that kicked everybody’s butts. And you know what? We, swept off the dust and we came back with a vengeance. And, we’re bigger and better than not bigger and better. We are bigger and better than before.

00:56:47:20 – 00:56:53:06
Tom
Right now. We probably didn’t fully answer the question that was asked.

00:56:53:09 – 00:56:54:25
Bunny
Because that’s the money.

00:56:54:26 – 00:57:06:25
Tom
That’s us. We just randomly talk. I mean, we could answer the question in two minutes, but we like to talk.

00:57:06:27 – 00:57:12:13
Tom
I’d like to talk if you couldn’t see. A bunny was pointing at me.

00:57:12:16 – 00:57:18:00
Bunny
All right, we need to get off this. they need to,

00:57:18:02 – 00:57:18:25
Tom
They need to go eat.

00:57:18:26 – 00:57:30:07
Bunny
They need to go eat. Oh, can I do a shout out to Jack and Diane, who just booked with me? And I know that they watch us while they’re at their home gym. I, Jack and Diane.

00:57:30:10 – 00:57:31:24
Tom
We should play the song.

00:57:31:26 – 00:57:33:08
Bunny
Right?

00:57:33:11 – 00:57:35:09
Tom
Little ditty? Yeah, by Jack and.

00:57:35:09 – 00:57:37:19
Bunny
I, of course.

00:57:37:22 – 00:57:45:08
Tom
So, yeah. definitely. Come travel with us. We. We’d love to meet people. don’t be a stalker.

00:57:45:10 – 00:57:47:23
Bunny
No, no, don’t.

00:57:47:25 – 00:57:48:13
Tom
Oh, and.

00:57:48:13 – 00:57:53:02
Bunny
Don’t don’t make us, take down all of our schedule because they’re stalking either.

00:57:53:02 – 00:58:02:02
Tom
And if you email us, our DM us and we don’t respond, we don’t respond to. Hey. Hi.

00:58:02:04 – 00:58:04:09
Bunny
You’re hot, you’re hot.

00:58:04:12 – 00:58:14:11
Tom
I want to play, I mean, right, can I ask a question? We don’t even respond to that. Ask the question and we shall respond. Yes, maybe.

00:58:14:13 – 00:58:17:23
Bunny
Respond. Send a whole sentence.

00:58:17:26 – 00:58:19:25
Tom
Send something of substance.

00:58:19:26 – 00:58:20:23
Bunny
Yeah.

00:58:20:25 – 00:58:22:14
Tom
I mean.

00:58:22:16 – 00:58:23:28
Bunny
All right. I was like, no.

00:58:24:01 – 00:58:24:14
Tom
It’s just the.

00:58:24:14 – 00:58:25:17
Bunny
Other day, I know.

00:58:25:19 – 00:58:30:26
Tom
Literally going hundreds down and seeing stuff that I should have replied two months ago.

00:58:30:28 – 00:58:34:21
Bunny
All right. Well, he’ll reply, I’ll reply.

00:58:34:23 – 00:58:36:00
Tom
All right, until next time.

00:58:36:05 – 00:58:37:05
Bunny
We’ll see you soon.

00:58:37:05 – 00:58:38:12
Tom
We’ll see you soon.

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Hey, y’all you’re listening to Tom and Bunny. And these are our opinions and what works for us in the consensual, non monogamy lifestyle. What works for us may or may not work for you. You can watch all of our videos and listen to our podcast at www. Tomandbunny.com that’s www.TomandBunny.com. Don’t forget to subscribe on YouTube and follow us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook at Calm and Bunny. Enjoy our show.

Hey, everyone, Tom and Bunny coming at you live from Tomandbunny.com. Yes. And we haven’t done videos in so incredibly long. So forgive us if we’re a little rusty because we’re just going to just talk a little bit about some interesting things that have been happening, some misconceptions. Misconceptions. No, not really. Misconceptions thought processes. Thought processes. So we’re going to tell you a couple of interesting stories. Right. Because for the past couple of years, we’ve pretty much lived in vanilla life. We have been living and guess what? Vanilla life. And guess what? Boring. It’s boring. So we’re back into the Pineapple things. Yes, we are. Pineapple of things. Pineapple of things. Well, you can’t say that, right? You can’t say that. No, I can’t say that anymore because they put us in jail if we use the proper or old terminology. Don’t get me wrong, we have done Pineapple things. We have gone to different places and different resorts and had a good time, but nothing like we did in the past. So that’s all going to change, I think, starting next week. Yeah. So this week we’re actually going to be hitting a hotel takeover. We’ll reveal it after we go there just because we don’t want to pre put out where we’re going to be this weekend because. No, we want to go have fun. And we don’t know anybody. We don’t know anybody. We don’t know anybody there. So it’s going to be a good time. Yeah. So quick couple of stories. So this is just giving us back into the video groove here, into the Pineapple of things. To the Pineapple of things. So years ago when we ran our club, we had a place at a resort that was a mile and a half away. And we would go and stay there all the time. I mean, we left our house to our kids pretty much. And so we were taking the shuttle van back to our place at the resort from our club. And there was another couple in the shuttle van. That resort actually rented mobile homes and RVs. And you can pull in your own RV, our tent if you wanted to stay there. And they had pool parties and all kinds of stuff. So as we were coming back, we were talking to this couple. And because we ran a club, we’re the worst Pineapples we are. Well, we know how to approach people. We just got to understand it was a business at that time. And our goal was for you to meet somebody because if you meet somebody and they met somebody, you’re coming back to our club. But if you met us and the other people didn’t meet anyone, one couple isn’t coming back to the club because they had a bad night because they didn’t meet anybody. Right. So we always kind of just stayed in the background. And our pineapple time was when we went traveling. Yeah. We didn’t want to Rooster block anymore. We didn’t want to Rooster block anybody. And if you can understand the term Rooster block. So we’re talking to this couple and everything, and they’re telling us how they watch us on YouTube all the time. And before they came to our club, they watched all of our videos multiple times. As a matter of fact, we’ll tell the next story after this one. So we invited them over to our place because me and Tony had a thing for ice cream. At the end of the night, we’d go back to our place, wind down, and have some ice cream and relax before we go to bed. Well, we invited them over for ice cream. They come over, they’re in there, and they’re both kind of kicking each other onto the table. We had no clue. We’re giving them ice cream, and we have ice cream. We have great conversation. We probably wasted their time for 2 hours probably. And I’m sure they probably would have, after all said and done, would’ve wished they would have went to the pool. Right. Because it was still early enough. I didn’t even think about the pool because we’ve been there so much. Yes. So anyway, we became really good friends with this couple, and we’re still friends with them today. And he actually said something. He goes, hey, you guys are Tommy Bunny. And I said, yeah. He goes, when you guys offered us to come to your place for ice cream, we thought that went like, come over for some ice cream. And I went, oh, my God. I was totally oblivious. We were like we said, worst pineapples ever. Now, would we have had a pineapple ground time with this couple? Absolutely. We just thought they were way out of our League. We didn’t want to put ourselves out there, so it was just a safe route to go.

Ice cream is always a safe route to go. So we’re going to start using ice cream as our code word. We are. If we invite you for ice cream, you’re going to be the cherry on top. Yes. So if you hear one of us say, so, do you like ice cream? Yeah. If we ask you if you like ice cream, we’re definitely interested. Yes. If we’re going to share ice cream with you. Right. Especially good ice cream. Yeah, it was good ice cream. All right, so fast forward. Well, hold on now. I’m going to tell the next story that’s not the same. Fast forward to five years later. No, I’m going to tell the next story about the same couple. So they watch our videos so much that they watch our videos on their 65 inch TV. And we uploaded a new video. This is years ago. I don’t remember what video it was, but we were using them as an example, like we are today. And he takes a picture of his feet kicked up with this big giant screen TV at the time with us on his TV. And he goes, hey, guess what I’m doing right now? And I’m like, oh, that’s cool. I said, you’re watching us. I never even looked at us on a big screen TV. And he says, wait a minute, are you talking about us? Yeah, actually, we were I don’t remember what the topic was, but it was kind of funny because he sends me a picture of him watching us on his TV. And then like 15 seconds later, he sends me another text going, are you talking about us? And we try to use people as examples, but we’re hoping that we’re talking about them in such a second sense that they don’t understand we’re talking about them. Right. All right. So now, five years later, five years later, instead, we’ve kind of been living the vanilla life. We had to get real jobs during COVID. Well, we created our own jobs. We’re still working for ourselves. Right. So we definitely we drive around the country and have a wonderful time. And because we’re not so much into the pineapple scene in the club wise, I mean, like I said, we still go to resorts. We still meet people. But now we’re starting to meet vanilla friends. Right. Which has been completely different than it has been for the past 25 years. And we do videos for what we do today that doesn’t involve the pineapple scene. Well, so we thought and we knew that there could be crossover. We knew people could find both channels or be on this channel and find the other channel or be on the other channel and find this channel. I mean, if we would have used different names, it would have been a little bit harder. Yeah, if we would have used what was it? Patrick and Jean gotten away with it, but the whole Tom and Bunny back there, when people forget what our other channel name is, they Google Tom and Bunny and Lo and behold they find this channel. We’re not embarrassed about it or not? No, not at all. So these people that were getting into what we’re doing, they asked if they could talk to us and everything, and we ended up meeting them for breakfast. And we didn’t know they knew about this channel, but they knew about this channel. We don’t put it out there to people. We don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable. No. This is our life and how we choose to live our life. And not everybody needs to know if they don’t know then unless we’re going to offer them ice cream. Right. I mean, if we offer them ice cream, then they should know about this. I’m not going to offer ice cream to just somebody that I’m meeting for the square. Well, we’re never going to offer ice cream to someone in the vanilla world unless they make it clear that they’re in the pineapple world. Correct. So we don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable across a line that you can’t get back over. No. So, yeah, we had a great breakfast and we took them around, showed them everything we do because they wanted to see it firsthand because they were getting ready to get into it. Right. So we invited them over to our place for dinner to answer more questions. Well, what we thought was to answer more questions and offer more advice because we’re all about gearing people for success. Yes. And whether it’s pineapple or the other world, we had no clue until they came. It was the end of dinner. The end of dinner that they talked about that they told us that they knew about the other one. And their workers knew about the other one. And their parents knew about the other one. This one.

This one’s about Tom and Bunny videos and Tom Bunny videos, this and that. And she wanted to live the Tom and Bunny lifestyle. I would have loved to better fly on the wall with her coworkers. They’d be like, what the heck is she doing? We’re drinking. What made us laugh all week. It was an adorable story. So when we invited them for dinner, they didn’t know if we were inviting them for ice cream. I am so glad that Tom didn’t tell that we’re having tacos.

Yeah. Would you like to come over and eat tacos today? And we did have tacos. We really did have tacos. That would have sounded especially to them. They knew about us, but we didn’t know they knew about us. And if we invited them over for tacos, they might have really insinuated that. So they told us they kind of kicked it. They accepted the advice, but they didn’t know what to expect. And they were so nervous for two days before coming over. But they showed up. They did. They did show up. And what’s funny is I still didn’t know about that. They knew and we were talking about something. And I told them the story about ice cream. I said, yeah, because we invited them over for dinner. I told them how we invited a couple over for ice cream. And would you believe it? They thought we were going to pineapple all over them. I was just making small talk. And you didn’t know? No, but that was actually it was a great dinner. We had a good time. We did have a good time. But it’s funny, too, because like I said, now that we are in the vanilla world, too. I mean, come on. We ran a club for over 20 years. Yeah. And we work for an adult lifestyle. Oh, I can’t say that word. Can’t say that word. You can work for an adult travel company. Adult travel company. Yeah. So for the past year and a half, we’ve now been working in the vanilla world. And, man, you just don’t realize how many slips that you do. A lot of slips because all of our friends previous to Covet were all Pineapple. Now we have friends that are Pineapple. But most of the people we’re meeting now are non Pineapple. And I mean so much so that we don’t advise anyone. We can out ourselves or do whatever we want because we work for a Pineapple company that actually pays a salary. So we aren’t going to get fired for us doing these videos. As a matter of fact, they want us to do the videos. Right. But we don’t recommend anyone. All of our friends and family know what we do. So even if somebody were to go on and try to tell all of our family what we did, it would be like, so what? We know that right. We’ve known that for 20 years. Yes. And we are seeing a lot right now on Ticktock. It seems like it’s a race to out yourself being in the Pineapple community. Everybody under the sun. And I’m looking at this thinking with today’s cancel culture, if they have regular jobs, you got to trust us. We get our hate mail from very religious people to thinking we’re immoral to, I don’t know, people who have been cheated on. And they think we are the cause of their significant other cheating on them because we have a more care, free and open nonjudgmental, non jealous lifestyle. Tom hasn’t. But I have been called every name in the book. Yes. That you can possibly imagine. Guys get high five, right? Girls get really trashed down. Yes. They get body shame. I’ve been told to put the girls away. No, I love those things. You name it, they’ll sit in there. You name it, they come after you. They do. And it’s unfortunately unfortunate. But people can be cruel even as adults. They never got out of high school or anything like that. Bullies will bully. It’s the cool kids against. Well, we’re the cool kids. We are the cool kids. We’ve been told like, we’re the cool aunt and uncle that everybody wish they had. We’re the OGS. We’re told. So it’s funny because we’ll go into the Tick Tocks when they get live feeds and I’ll go in there and just say, hey, how are you guys doing? And all of a sudden, either they know who we are or they don’t know who we are. Depending on Google the Pineapple World. They Google the Pineapple World. We’re going to show up somewhere. We’ve been doing these videos for seven years, and we’re all over Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, but it’s kind of cool because it makes us sound old, though. We are old compared to most of them. We’ll go in there and just say, hey, love your content because we support the Pineapple community and any content providers out there putting themselves out, we want them to know we support them. Yes. And it’s kind of cool when they come back and they tell their audience their live feed, oh, my God, this is Tom and Bunny. If you don’t know who Tom and Bunny are, we watched Tom and Bunny’s YouTube and that’s how we got into the Pineapple community. And they’re just taking the rings and we’re digging all their content. We watch a lot of their ticktoks, the little two, three minute ones. We may not sit there during the live feeds all the way through, but we do come across and we’ll jump in and just give a hello, a shout out and everything. So to all the Ticktokers out there, we love your content. Just remember, we are in a cancel culture society. If you have anything to risk that Tik Tok is not going to be your best friend. No, I mean, go back, watch some of our videos. We have been thrown under the bus so many times, it’s not even funny. And like I said, now also working in the vanilla world, it’s a whole different ball of Blacks out there. So you got to be careful, but have fun. Have fun in your life and be who you are. But just remember, there can be backlash from haters. Right? Exactly. So hopefully our persona and our quality that we do puts us above what we do on this side. But we do absolutely, like you said, respect what they’re doing on TikTok because it is opening up a whole new different world and it is helping a lot more people understand our side of life. Yeah, because a lot of people just have these preconceived notions about people like us and reality. What we tell people when they ask us is I’ll tell them straight up their family, their friends, their coworkers, anyone they meet on a day to day basis in a vanilla setting, they’ll be lied to. They’ll hide information from them. They won’t include them in everything. But in our world, when we’re dealing with our counterparts, other people, we’re all open books. Yes. The deception isn’t there. The cut throat, the backstabbing. I always use this as an explanation. Call one of your friends and tell them you’re moving on Saturday and you need their help on Thursday. Watch how many would do it on any other day but Saturday because they’ve already made plans. In the Pineapple world, you put out a thing saying, oh, my God, we got to move on Saturday and it’s Thursday. You will get 50 people going when? Where? What do you need? We can bring a trailer. We could bring a truck. We’ll bring friends. I’m not saying you’re using these people. I’m just saying that their genuineness is much more solid, that they truly want to help you. Right. Absolutely. Because the fact is, nobody has to hide their lives from each other. Exactly. So that’s why we embraced a Pineapple World. And we prefer our friends to be in the Pineapple World. Because we may not out ourselves to somebody. We may not tell somebody. It doesn’t mean we’re hiding anything. It doesn’t mean we’re deceiving them at all. Because we’re in this world. It’s none of their business. Unless we offer them ice cream, then it becomes their business. Absolutely. But until we cross that line, they all need to know what we do privately. No. Where in the Pineapple World they know we’re going to be in the vanilla world. Yes, absolutely. And they know how to behave in front of your family as much as people can’t conceive that. Oh, my God. If I meet this couple at a club, I can’t bring them to my house. They’ll be perving on all my family and friends. And it’s just preconceived notions that are not true. Right. Some people might. You just got to choose your friends wisely, like you would in the other world. Yeah. Because I guarantee that that person that is going to cross the line at a family function, they’re going to do it whether they’re a pineapple or not. Exactly. It’s just in their nature. Yeah. They’re just going to do it. So, yeah, you’re absolutely right on that. So we just wanted to get our feet wet. I know we’ve been saying we’re going to do videos a couple of times, and we’re now actually, we just spent three weeks at Hedonism in Jamaica twice. Yes. And we’ve been moving around the country. Not moving, but traveling around the country every single day. That’s but it’s sometimes hard for us to get downtime. Right. So we come home today. We did our hair got all purdied up. I got a haircut Bunny. I got to dye my hair. I got to dye my hybrid house. I know. All right. So that being said, we’ve been rambling for 22 minutes. Wow. How many people watched us all the way through this much? Put a comment. I’m kind of curious because our algorithms say that we have a good eight minutes. Eight to ten minutes, and then you guys are gone. Right. So we keep talking because we have nothing. We have nothing better to do. So we should have a code word, then watch some ice cream. Well, we shut ice cream throughout this whole video. All right. So here the Easter Beaver. It is Easter tomorrow. It’s Easter tomorrow. Tomorrow. You know, when this video was created on Saturday, I have no idea when we’re going to upload it, but it was created the day before Easter. So if you see my Easter Bunny, my Easter Beaver Bunny, it says, but did you die? Did you die? You can mention that and say, hey, we watched you all the way through. I’ve seen the Easter we saw your Easter Beaver. We seen Bunny and Easter Beaver.

You hardly ever drink anymore, right. We got to get back into the pineapple of things. We are not doing any more 21 questions. I took that video offline. You’ll notice, too, that we took a lot of our videos offline. You know how I know this? Because I’ve got an email saying, hey, Where’s your toy video? Or where is your 21 question? I wanted to share it with someone. I can’t find it because we actually do videos in the vanilla world. We don’t care if they see club tours or just conversations like this, but those were a little more personal. And believe it or not, the vanilla world that we’re living in today, those people can be pretty brutal. Yes, absolutely. So we just don’t want to give them any more ammunition. It doesn’t affect us, but it does because they have turned people not against us. They just don’t want anything to do with us not realizing that we could be better friends than the haters. Right. That we’re just normal people. We just have an extra curricular weekend activity. Yeah. That we like. Right. We like each other. And I think that bothers people. I think so, too, that we like each other a lot. A lot. So mention Bunny’s, Easter Beaver. Just write Easter Beaver and other people. People will be like, why does everyone keep just no other verbiage except for Easter Beavers in the comments? Because they didn’t watch the video all the way through. Right. They just jumped to the comments. See? Yes. Because they’re like those two ramble too much. We do ramble. We do. All right. So we’re going to go check out a hotel party this weekend, Friday and Saturday. Friday night to meet and greet. Yes. Saturday night is the party. And then they have an after hours pool party. And we may even take the Motor Bunny and offer to let people take it for a ride. Right. Because now we have the buck. We do have the Motor Bunny buck. So if you don’t know what that is, Google it. Be prepared to pull your credit card out because you’re going to want to buy one. But they are worth every Penny. Let them know we sent you. Yeah, let them know Tom and Bunny, if you get a referral in there to put Tom and Bunny in there, we just like to let them know that we are telling people about their product and how much we endorse it. Absolutely. All right, guys, so we’ll see you at the next event. We will. And definitely book with Tom’s Trips. Yes. Come party with us in Jamaica on the cruises. We’re selling Desire now. Well, we’ve had been selling Desire, but yes, come party with us and come travel and have a good time. And if you’re wondering what this big red thing is that’s Bunny’s microphone? There. Let me move that out of the way. I got my drink. All right. Until next time. We’ll see you guys later. Later. See you soon. Have a good one. Bye.

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