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One of our most asked questions is, Will I fit in going to a club, event or resort because the photos or advertisements people are seeing are of young, fit and beautiful people. we discuss the truth in advertising and the average age you can expect to see at these events. watch our videos at http://www.TomandBunny.com
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Truth in advertising and average age at Clubs, Events and Resorts hosted by TomandBunny
Hey, y’all, you’re listening to Tom and bunny, and these are our opinions and what works for us in the consensual non-monogamy lifestyle. What works for us may or may not work for you. You can watch all of our videos and listen to our podcast@wwwdottomandbunny.com. That’s www.tomandbunny.com. Don’t forget to subscribe on YouTube and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at, um, and funny, enjoy our show.
Heidi ho neighbors. I knew you’re going to do that. That’s why I sat back. I didn’t say a word. Hey everyone, you’re listening to Tom bunny here. This is take number two because she cut me off last time and I wasn’t prepared. I’m the one that does the introduction. All right. So bunny wants to do the introduction this time.
So we recently put out. I request that we’re looking for content and we’re getting a lot of responses and we just did one. And now this one is we were going a couple two into this one. So a lot of people are saying that when they see advertisements, they are concerned that they’re going to be too old.
Are they’re not going to measure up to the people in the advertisements. And a lot of people think that the picture on the advertisement, it’s an actual member of the club. Maybe, maybe not. Okay. So give you an example. When we were at a club in California, we first started using all the stock photo sites.
And of course, we’re going to download the, the model type pictures because I to that’s what you want. You want your website to look its absolute best. Right? So they grabbed, um, these nice. Model photography photos that they can use. I, because I’m trying to, I don’t want to offend anyone. I just. Right. So if I sound politically incorrect, I do apologize.
However, yes. When you look at a restaurant menu and you see this gorgeous food, and then when you order it and you come and you open the box, it looks similar, but nothing like. The picture. Okay. So that’s the same way his clubs do it. Hotels do it by making these rooms, they take a picture when the room is brand spanking new, well, 10 years down the road, they’re still using that same room, but now it looks 10 years down the road.
When you walk into it, same with people. So with that said, yes, a lot of clubs are going to use. What they want to project as what they would like as their member base, because let’s be honest, me and bunny aren’t in that younger group no more. So therefore, if we’re looking at pictures, are we going to go to a club with pictures of people our age?
Are we going to go to a club where we see a acute younger couple. Well, we’re going to go to the club that has the cute younger couple, because they’re going to attract a wide array of members where if we go to the club, that projects our specific age, we’re only going to meet people in our specific age group.
And we’re not just looking for our age group. We, we do want people in our age group, but we don’t want to close our minds to younger. No, absolutely, absolutely not. And. I forgot where I was going with this. Okay. So I’ll keep going. So what I used to do was use the model picture, and again, these are unscripted, so forgive us and we get a subject and we just start talking and then we do lose a train of thought.
So I started using our actual members. I would give them a comp pass to come out on a Saturday just to show up. I mean, that’s an $80 come. I tell them, bring all their outfits. And then we take pictures all day long. I had two photographers, two backdrops, and it was literally people that came to our club.
And then at the end of the day, they got a copy of all the pictures and their cute outfits from professional photographers. But. They only had white backgrounds. Cause that’s what I wanted. Unfortunately, they didn’t have all the backdrops and everything, but if I used a pitcher, I would give them a, yet another $80 VIP pass and I would never use the same picture twice.
So I had a constant. Collage of pictures to go through. So these people were earning passes residually for coming to one model shoot. They might earn five, 10 passes over a year or two years time. And, but I did the model shoots every month and we would literally get calls all the time going are those actual club members?
And we’d say, yes, those are actual club members. Are they going to be there that night? Now? We wouldn’t say yes or no. They were going to be there. A lot of them were there, obviously because they’re getting free passes and they were. Patronizing our club all the time. But the fact is our numbers grew exponentially because we did truth in advertising.
We certainly did these girls, they would, and they loved to be on a, on a cover poster or on the website to them. It was like a little slice of, um, Being famous or being a top model for them, we’d give them a, we would print 18 by 24 posters, uh, big posters and put them all throughout the club to show what was coming up.
Well, when their theme would come, we would have 10 of those posters of that same picture. And we would do it every week with switch them out. They would take them all home and they would give them out. They would put them in their garage is almost like a. Like the tool company model pitcher on the clock or something.
We actually had a member who would ask the girls if they could have their pictures and they would sign them for him. And he had them hung up in their garage so much fun. Now I do know that Eden club there, they do model shoots. Matter of fact, they just posted like 90 pictures on their Facebook of their actual photo shoot.
Now. The girls that we took pictures of were an exact resemblance of what you could expect to see in our club. We had exotic dancers. I mean, very beautiful women. We had younger girls too. Older girls. We had all shapes all sizes and I’ll tell you why it was a very successful promotion that I did. Oh, absolutely.
It worked out very, very well. The customers, as well as the, um, the girls doing the show right now, some clubs only want a specific age group, 35 and under, well, obviously they’re only going to take pictures of the specific age group that they want. Some clubs want. 55 and older that you’re living silver clubs and they’re going to take pictures of older couples.
So, but, but Jordy, the clubs haven’t quite caught onto that. So they just go on the stock photo sites and download cutesy pictures and stuff like that. It’s not anything wrong with that. Yeah. They’re just showing you the theme are an example of the attire they want for the night. Correct. So don’t read into it.
If you’re going to a website and you’re looking in, you’re seeing exotic beauties, don’t read into it. You definitely want to go to that club and see what the patronage is. Our column, call the clubs specifically and say, Hey, we’re 45. Are we going to fit in your club? I always say, I really hate saying this, but some clubs specifically want a specific demographic.
They want, uh, as, as they call it a quality, a quality control. So they require their members to email on a pitcher for approval. One club was so hardcore that a pitcher got you an invite to the door. And once you got to the door, they gave you a second look and that determined if you got through the door or they told you to move on.
And to me, I would never, ever, ever recommend anyone emailing any club, a picture of you, because that’s really not in our minds. The lifestyle, the lifestyle is a very accepting and very giving. And, but if you want very exclusive. Go ahead now let’s backtrack because there are some clubs out there that have programs and you have to submit a picture to go into the membership base.
That’s only. So when you show up your picture shows up, so the person checking you in has going to verify that you’re with that person, correct? They’re not using it as an example of who they’re going to allow in or deny if they use the pitcher to allow in or deny. That you have to determine on your own.
If you want to go that route, I would, it’s like signing up for a credit card. Do you want to get rejected? I mean, that’s got to feel like a blow to the stomach. Back in the day, there was a, there was parties that were doing it. And even some of the people that I thought were super, super hot got turned down.
I’m like, what? But their requirements were so stringent. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? So, um, now the age demographics that go to clubs, a lot of people that when they see these younger pictures, they think, Oh my God, these people are going to be 18 to 25. W we’re 45. I know we’re not 45. We’re just making up a number.
So we feel better, but they’re thinking they’re not going to fit in. Believe it or not at our club. Our club was 21 to 80. And I say that and people go 80. Yes, 80 years old. I think that there was a few times that we had older than that, older than that. And I’ll tell you what. Age is really just a number because when these 80 year olds would come into the club, they were the life of the party because they had no shame in their game.
They came dressed in theme, they rocked it, they were on the dance floor and people gravitated them just because of their aura. I mean, they’re, they’re just love of the life. Exactly. Cause they’re just out to have a good time. Right. So age is just a number now, obviously when you’re playing. It’s not just a number.
You have to have an attraction. Well, most people, well, I would hope everybody, but that doesn’t mean, I mean, that everyone’s unattractive or everyone’s attractive. It’s really it all your tastes like me and bunny. We have our own taste and we’re attracted to, I don’t know, we call it just regular everyday.
Your neighbor next door. Nothing outlandish. No. Um, Well, they don’t have to drive Ferrari’s and they don’t have to trust them the latest fashion. We just, they just got to be able to communicate. I think number one is communication. So what that said, we did a recent poll. It’s a very scientific poll off of Twitter.
It’s completely scientific. We verified everybody that took the poll individually to verify with, well, no, we really didn’t. We didn’t care. We just throw up a poll and said, here’s the. Uh, the actual thing I wrote was help us out for a future YouTube video. What, what age group do you belong to? Really a simple.
Now Twitter only gives me four responses. The nice thing is it’s anonymous, so everyone can respond. I had to put something for the four responses. So I went 18 to 20. I did that because most clubs don’t allow people under 21 in, right. I just liked the fact that we actually have people that are following us that are between 18 and 21.1%.
So the poll is only 24 hours. I put it up late at night, so it really didn’t. And I put it up on a. Saturday. So most people have a life, so 87 people. So, but you know what, uh, usually when the poll starts going, it doesn’t really change dramatically. Once you get the first 10 responses, it literally grows about the same levels the whole time.
Yeah. What were you gonna say? I was going to say, plus, uh, typically the people that follow us are in the middle bracket. Well, I w R H demographic? Yeah. Okay. So, uh, 21 to 34, uh, 9.2% 35 to 55. And I know that’s 20 year gap, uh, 66.7%. And 56 and over is 23%. We’ve been running clubs for 20 years. We’ve been doing lifestyle travel for three years.
We absolutely knew without even doing the poll. The average age of the lifestyle is 35 to 55 with the meat and potatoes about 45 years old. Correct. And then running a club and running the club and the traveling, especially about the meat and potatoes about 45. Cause that’s about the age where people are starting to feel comfortable about leaving their children at home by themselves.
Right. So then they’re starting to venture out more on a weekend or, you know, a week. Yep. So. Again, the clubs that are showing and we’re getting, I mean, obviously this is off of our Twitter and therefore it’s going to be our followers. If we were like a young swinger group, the average age would probably be 21 to 35.
Correct. So, but I think. Uh, our Twitter kind of gravitates to everybody. So we’re not really down. We’re not locked into a certain age group except for shows. We are 35 and you know what? There, there are a lot of clubs out there now, too. And we’ve gone. We just went over this on another video. There are clubs that specialize too for the BBWs.
There are some that specialized for the ultra hot ones, right? And you know what? You, no matter where you’re going to go, you’re going to find what you’re looking for. But for the most part, any club that you go to or any house party that you go to, it’s going to be your average everyday person. Correct.
Now don’t take the numbers. For instance, we have been to many, many parties, many events where. Again, it’s not the age. It’s the attraction. We have far seen our share of 60 year old hooking up with mid late 20 year olds. And the late, mid, late 20 year olds love the six year old and they have their own reasons.
Right. But typically what we hear is they didn’t have to pussy foot around that they, the older couple were not as shy as the, their counterparts and the older women know what they like. Yeah, exactly. And that’s, a freak in the sheets. Yeah. So just you’re in the older group, don’t hesitate to go to a club and.
Not expect a younger, attractive couple are single to approach you. Right, right. But also if you’re a younger couple, don’t expect an older, creepy couple, like us not to come hit on you, the creepy people, whatever. I’m like, God, that’s horrible. It is horrible. But anyway, but at least you referred to us as older.
Exactly. I didn’t want to point fingers at anybody, you know, just kidding Lord have mercy. You’re out it tonight. I am. I am I having a good time? So I’m playing with my pump. Anyone know what this is? If you know what, this is, put a comment in the comments. Yeah, we are sober tonight. So it’s probably the problem that he has the problem.
So definitely yes, there is. There there’s different types of advertising. Not everyone needs to do truth in advertising. The more get, the more of the story is they’re just getting their point across, uh, if they want leopard print. Theme where they’re going to put a model with the leopard print and it just so happens.
They’re going to look for the most attractive model in leopard print to put on a poster or on an image to put on social media or on a website too. If you’re going to go to. To a re to a resort. Cause there’s a lot of resorts out there now, too. They’re going to have the absolute, best pictures that they can possibly get.
So you’re gonna, they’re going, I’ve seen a lot of them where they’ve got, um, you know, these hot, hot models laying around a nice pool. Exactly like that every day you go, right? We, I mean, we work for Tom’s trips and it’s an adult lifestyle travel and we go to resorts all over the nation and the world and those resorts always put up the smoking hot, hot models.
And our problem is, is our average age is 45. Average body size. Um, mommy bodies, dad, bod, stuff like that. Not typically your gym rats. And when I say gym rats, not a negative. I wish I could be a gym rat, but were lazy. So no excuse, no excuse, no. Excuse. We’re we’re lazy. But anyway. The hardest part of selling adult travel at a clothing optional, our nude resort is these people are looking at the resorts promotions and then questioning us of why they should book at that resort because they don’t think they’re going to fit in and we have to go, Oh dear God.
Now we have to explain to them that they are the. Normal person that, that resort sees that, that resort almost never, maybe one week a year might see those hard balls. Right. And that will be a specific group, very specific group, but all the other groups pretty much, as long as they could pay to go, we’ll sell them a ticket.
Absolutely. So, so it’s just call bunny. I mean, just, I understand this lifestyle, it’s very accepting. They’re very accepting of all ages on all shapes and sizes. It does not matter what background you come from. It doesn’t nothing matters. People just want to meet people. Exactly. So if you’re one of the couples that have been having hangups about going to a, a house party, a hotel party, a convention, a club, or.
Resort understand, no matter how much you weigh, how much you are, how old you are, how young you are or anything about you, you are going to meet your counterparts at those. Oh, absolutely. Like a friend of ours says there’s a lid to every pot. Yes. That that’s, that’s a great analogy. So definitely. No doubt.
Yeah. Venture out and be confident in your own skin and don’t overanalyze anything. And we just told you average ages 18 to 80 1880. I mean, we gave you meat, potatoes ages, but realistically in the lifestyle, it’s 18 to 80. And because of where we travel within the, the world, we’ve seen 18 year olds. Yes. Um, Typically the 18, the, the real, real, real young ones don’t even interact with the average people, which is totally fine.
And they have their own week anyways. Yes. All right. So truth in advertising. Yes. The pitcher’s perfectly fine. No matter what you see out there, it’s just, they’re trying to get across. A theme. It would be like a cake maker, throwing down a cake are actually designing a cake. They’re just trying to make it look appetizing.
Exactly. Yeah. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Yes. People say, well, there should be truth in advertising. Y Y there, there, there doesn’t have to be. Let’s go back to the Baker stage. They’re not going to put out their practice ones in the photo. Exactly. They’re going to put out there. Premium. Yeah. So don’t look at that.
Call the club. If you have any question, if you’re going to fit in, I guarantee you a club will be very upfront and honest with you. You call them up and say, I have a dad, bod, she has a mom bod, we’re both 45. Are we going to fit in there? Well, 99% of them will say, yes. There will be that time when you get a, yeah.
You might want to look around and they might even suggest other clubs because they’re in that same location. Absolutely. The club that would require pictures in turn people at the door, they would literally re recommend our club. Guess what? We opened our arms to them. We figured at our club, there was somebody for everybody at our club and it didn’t matter.
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Corona Virus Update and the Affects on the Lifestyle hosted by TomandBunny
Hey, y’all, you’re listening to Tom and bunny, and these are our opinions and what works for us central non-monogamy lifestyle. What works for us may or may not work for you. You can watch all of our videos and listen to our podcast@wwwdotcomandbunny.com. That’s www.tomandbunny.com. Don’t forget to subscribe on YouTube and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at, um, and funny, enjoy our show.
Hey everyone. We’re Tom and bunny. And I bet you are just as happy as we are. Cause we shortened the intro from a minute down to 30 seconds. And we’re going to try to shorten that down. That one actually sounds like we’re getting ready to go to the beach. Yes, that was my rock and roll tune. So, uh, recently we put out a message on all of our social media, our Twitter, Instagram, Facebook page, Facebook group, as well as other social media that doesn’t even pertain to Tom and bunny.
We all did ourselves. Yeah. And we said, because of COVID, we are lacking in content because we normally get our content from. Facebook messages, people having conversations, debates, and our channel is not an answer. It’s just how me and bunny. Deal with situations as a couple and how we deal with the situation does not mean it would be proper for you.
No, absolutely not. So we’re not trying to be mom and dad here and give answers. So we’ve just recently we got a bunch of response we did, and this one actually fits perfectly in the timeline. Yes. And I’ll be honest. This is about Corona. We were not going to do, we did. Three other videos before this about Corona and it got so depressed and we just kept deleting them and deleting them and deleting them.
Um, so this is actually almost, almost to the one year Mark of when, uh, COVID was right when we went into a full pandemic. So the timing on this one is perfect and these questions are actually pretty on spot. Yeah. Most people just put on the video on themes. With no direction, which is fine. That’s all we wanted was a direction to go are just a topic.
And then we can go from there. But we’ve had a couple people say, do one on Corona, do want to COVID and everything and how it affects the lifestyle and stuff. But nobody actually asked. Questions like this person, this person, actually from North Carolina, this person actually asked several questions, which gives us a lot to talk about, but we’re going to try to do this in 15 minutes or less because we know people, their attention span is less than 10 minutes.
Now, watch it all the way through though. Cause we do have questions and answers all the way through this video, right? Absolutely. All right. So I’m going to start right here. I would love to hear or see the realities of the lifestyle during Corona it’s social effect. The reason you are looking for content is exactly the symptom happening currently.
I’d love to see discussed. People are still getting together, going out, et cetera. Hotel parties are still happening, but scaled way back house parties are too, which is absolutely correct. So we have a lot of friends in California and yeah. There are all we hear all the time. Oh, we wish you were in California.
Our friends are having a party. Uh, another friend says that he goes to house parties all the time where there’s 20, 30 couples while other ones are a little more smaller, three or four or five, six couples. I know that doesn’t sound small, but you gotta meet. Remember, and our lifestyle. Yeah, that’s a small number, a small number.
Yeah. Um, Oh yes. All over the country. There are house parties. There’s there was a hotel party that happened in California. And we’re not going to mention any names because we don’t, there’s a lot of people out there putting people on blast for having party. So we’re not gonna put anyone on blast. Uh, we’re not mom and dad here.
But they actually had a hotel party. I believe it was for new year’s Eve. And when we saw the ads, it was for like 200 couples. And we don’t know what happened with the venue because the venue got changed, but the number got lowered down. It was either going to be 200 couples or 200 people. I don’t remember, but it got lowered to 75.
So I don’t know if that was 75 couples or 75 people. So yeah, the, I mean, that’s a huge number of people going to an event and. You know, again, we’re not going to mention any. No, no. The clubs still are not open. Some of them are open they’re running on limited capacities and some are just. Throwing caution to the wind.
Yeah. There are actually clubs out there that are not open in the public eye, meaning their website shows shut down. All their promotions are down. They have very private, exclusive groups where they’re still hosting parties, but only to a very, not a select, but people they could trust. That’s not going to call the health department on it.
A lot of them are doing that. Doing parties that were their current members before the pandemic. Correct. So, and you know, a lot of people think that everything should be shut down because of the Corona, but the fact is. Businesses can’t survive. You got to pay your utilities, got to pay your bills at home.
Not everyone gets unemployment. Nope. Nope. So I, I feel sorry for a lot of these. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So going on, there are parties happening. Every state that is completely a hundred percent locked down, you can guarantee it in the lifestyle. There are. Hundreds of parties throughout that state, there may be on a very tiny scale, but they are all over the place.
You gotta to look more, you gotta know, you gotta be in the know and you have to be in the know. All right. So we see some being safe and others very irresponsible right now. And then they wrote locally by us, not generalized. Okay. So we have a view on that. Um, who’s to say, who is safe and who’s very irresponsible.
This person posed a great question, but we got to say. If you are seeing people, somebody else can view you, even though you think you’re the one being safe as being the irresponsible ones. So there’s two sides to the coin either. You’re all complicit and you’re irresponsible are, you’re all complicit and you’re very, you’re doing your best to be safe.
Right. I was telling Tom, it’s funny how we come into this a year later and now we have to be in our lifestyle. We have to be. Safe in three weeks, three ways. We have to be safe from one pregnancy, two from venereal diseases, and now we gotta be safe from COVID and have a three-way. So who doesn’t want a three-way condoms, condoms, and a mask or birth control condoms and a mask.
So, um, Now the next question is, but what effect does that have? So what effect does that have? I don’t know what you consider being safer. Very irresponsible. I would say. You know, and, and I have to say, you know, a lot of people think that people that are having the big parties are being the ones that are being the super spreaders are being the ones that are irresponsible, but it’s not the party promoters or anybody like that, or the people that are going it’s, it’s your own opinion.
Well, it’s your opinion. Let’s just say, let’s just say, uh, another friend of ours. Just got called a super spreader for having an event. They kept counseling counseling. The city said it was okay to have the event, but a bunch of people decided to go on podcast and everything and call them a super spreader, magazines, articles, everything about them.
And the problem is, is he was just a host of an event. The people going there. We’re just as complicit for actually being there. He didn’t twist their arm. He didn’t pull them onto an airplane, pull off of an airplane and push them into it. Hotel room, did everything under the sun that he possibly could do to ensure safety and he was gonna lose his right.
Right. You know, and you know, he, everyone was demanding. He put on this party. And, and then when he did put it on, no one defended him. Okay. So, uh, some people had, uh, tested positive. For Corona NATS where all the magazines and all that came out of the woodwork. But the problem is, is we see people going to a resort in Jamaica all the time.
And the resort is claiming almost zero cases of Corona. Now, is that true or not? We don’t know. We’re just going to take them for their word. But what we’re seeing is we think most people are catching it in the airport. I think so too. Well, you, you can’t go to a movie. You can’t. You can’t, you got to stand six feet behind somebody in line at a grocery store, but on an airplane you’re like, right.
You’re packed in, like, we know this because we have flown recently. He did not take out the middle seat. We were packed in there, like sardines. So if we were going to get it, that would have been the time for us to get it. And we don’t want to hear anything about the circulation on an airplane. Right. It doesn’t matter.
Right, right. No. And that, and this one that actually this question actually goes hand in hand with that. Does it change the social scene? Absolutely. It has. We have seen such a divide in the lifestyle at this point. We were recently in California and we were on a website and we put out a hot date. We put out hot dates just for no other reason, but just to chat with people or talk to them online or meet them and possibly, but.
We got this nasty email out of the blue from this couple. Now I blocked them because I didn’t request them to send me a message. But they said, because I put a hot date, they said, keep your virus, opinionated butts out of our city and go away. I mean, they literally turned Karen on us. Yeah. And we’re like, what did we, why did not just question us?
Why not send us an honest message and say, Hey, you know, why don’t we solve this and everything? Uh, we personally would appreciate if you didn’t, but can you explain why you feel the need and maybe give us a forum to talk back and forth, but to just attack us, that’s what we’re seeing in the lifestyle is a 50 50.
Right? Right. And, and it’s, it has been driven a great big wedge through what was a great loving. Fun lifestyle is now has got this major wedge through it. Yeah. You got the people who are, and I don’t even know how to term it, but very fearful of Corona. And then you got the group that’s not at all scared of Corona, right?
So there’s nothing wrong. We, everyone has an opinion and everyone should have their own opinion. They shouldn’t just fall in line just because people scream louder. The thing is, is the people who. Believe that there’s no Corona. Aren’t going to be more, a little bit laid back and not be so vocal. The people who are fearful of it are the ones who want to scream at the people who are not scared of it.
You can’t scream and make someone believe in the virus. You’re just making them. Not trust the virus even more. Correct, but they’re not going to debate you because there’s no reason to try to convince you that. I know that you see the Tik TOK videos and the other stuff that people go out purposely not wearing a mask to trigger people, but I also see the same videos of people that go in looking for people without a mask to try to trigger it.
And people are going to get hurt. They are physically hurt. Right? So that goes in the same thing. Does this, does this change how we interact with each other? I think it does. I think it has what happened is it’s a lot of people are going to remember the people who engaged them and how they were treated during the pandemic is how they’re going to be treated afterwards.
I think the people who treated them. Badly during the pandemic are going to continually to, I mean, basically like someone goes to prison to get rehabilitated. There’s no rehabilitation. You, you were a super spreader. Yup. Yup. So not you, but the person in their mind. So I think the interaction going to kind of hinder for a long, long time, um, does the pickup change, or does the lifestyle sustain itself through pre-established connections or would it change doing things on a grand scale?
Okay. What they’re saying here is, um, Through a preestablished connections. This is, this means, and we’re going to take this as people that you have played with in the past are associated with our communicator within the past. So, but not moving forward because pre-existing means before. All right. So, uh, and I, I can’t even say on something like that, because.
Yeah, we’re we are still seeing clubs open and we are still seeing parties going on. So therefore, I don’t think that it’s going to be any pre-established connections. Well, I’m more on social media than money is. Um, I see a lot of people who think that because they played with somebody previously. That they’re okay to play with today.
W because they at least think they have some knowledge about that. Couple are single male or single female, whereas a new couple, they fear the unknown because they don’t know anything about that person or persons. Would that make sense? It would be like the same as you’re only as safe as your last partner.
So even if you go out and you get, uh, Of venereal disease or, or I’m sorry, if you go out and you get all of your tests done today, today, you play with another couple tomorrow. Yeah. No, those tests are no invoice. The second you play with another couple, if you play with a couple that if you play with a couple on Saturday night who had just went to work all week, then how do you know that they’re not contagious?
Exactly. Exactly. So does the pickup change? I think it does. I think it will change from now on just because, um, people are just going to be a little more cautious from now on, this is a very infectious disease. It’s are very easily to get, um, the debate is. Are you going to die from it? Are you going to heal from it?
So we won’t even go into that debate. We just, no one truly knows that answer. So we’re not going to discuss that. But what we will say is we know that it can go from person to person really fast and rapidly. So I think even when the virus is contained, I think it’s still going to change people. I think it’s changed society itself.
I do too. I do too. Um, has there been a different time in the lifestyle that changed things as much as, okay. So I was going to kind of touch on this on the last comment, but I wanted to hold it because I would have nothing else to talk about on this comment. Uh, the only thing I could think of would be the HIV.
AIDS pandemic of the eighties. And that was long before we came into the lifestyle, but I’m sure it changed it. It was long before we got in the lifestyle, but the lifestyle it’s been around for a long, a lot longer than that, but we were actually, um, In the eighties was definitely the time that we grew up.
So we definitely seen how that, how that affected. Yeah. And while it was predominant, supposedly the predominant in the gay community at that time, there were a lot of husbands that were cheating on their wives and then bringing it home and infecting their wives. So it became a straight diseases. I mean, no, even though the guy’s going with another guy.
It still became a straight disease. Cause now that wife is infecting other people correct our girlfriends. So, so I’m sure that back in the eighties, there was a big difference. But look at it today though. I mean, we’re talking what, 40 years ago, 40 to 40 some years ago. So that’s a long time. I don’t, I’d have to ask some old timers how long it affected them because this pandemic.
Could affect us for 10, 20 years, because we’ve only been in the lifestyle 24 years.
I’m just saying we’re still young as far as the AIDS epidemic, but we, we kind of, there was still a little scare of AIDS when we got in the lifestyle, but it was really, they knew how people were getting it. They had a lot more understanding and, um, But people still get AIDS today. So, um, but people aren’t as afraid of it because I think they understand it or they don’t care.
Right. So they’re thinking with the little guy. All right. So they’re really afraid of it. Then little guy better be wrapped. All right. So what that, yes. I, I think that would be the biggie. And the lifestyle, the only other thing I could think of, right. The, well, you know what I was gonna, I was actually going to say too, um, when the economy crashed, we thought that that was going to be the end of the lifestyle clubs for awhile because of money.
But people came out in droves and they paid with credit cards, credit cards, usage went out the roof because they wanted to get away and they wanted to relieve that stress. Yeah. You know what? I didn’t even think of it. That analogy I was taking more. COVID disease, but yeah, when a market crashed in 2008, we ran a club in California and we literally watched the money going down and we had just gotten a credit card service.
And I think maybe 5% of our. People coming in, were coming in on credit card. Cause God, for pitch, he didn’t want a lifestyle club on your credit card statement because of your tax accountant or whoever did your taxes. They’re going to see all that stuff. And people were definitely afraid of it. But when they started running out of cash, they started not caring so much.
And I always try to tell new clubs when they open, don’t use your club name, use a very vanilla DBA for your club for your credit card processing. So people will feel a little more comfortable. Would you feel more comfortable going to sex rs.com or would you feel more comfortable going to Tom buh-bye?
Well, either one, it was pretty bad, but say research like. Sex us versus twice or us, but I’m just saying that pubs, if you’re going to open, I know your name is your brand and you’re proud of it, but you gotta remember the people get affected by your decisions of charging them a certain way, correct?
Correct. And you do your whole point of taking credit cards is for business. All right. We hung out with close friends that are safe. We have. Went to a party where no one had AR ended up having COVID. Okay. So we have thoughts on that. We, we hear all the time, our friends are safe. How do you know that? Did they go to work today?
Did they go to the grocery store? Did they go anywhere? Did they hand money into the little bucket at the fast food where the person takes it and reaches in their hand, pulls the money out with a glove on and puts the money in the drawer, pulls the money out of the drawer with the glove on, puts it back in the bucket and hands it out.
And you reach into this bucket and pull it out. You don’t think you’re going to get Corona from that? You think your friends are safe? They’re not, Nope. Nope. It goes back to the same as your only as. Clean is your last test, right? So. When I hear people say our friends are safe, I can find a thousand analogies to prove that theory wrong.
They may be safer than someone you don’t know are, you may feel they’re safer than someone you don’t know, but to make a claim that they’re safe is a false, a false sense of security. Right? Um, the way that I feel on it, because we’ve been to clubs, we’ve been to parties since, since the pandemic and. Oh, my God, you just outed us all the haters.
You know what, to me, it’s, it’s the same risk as I’m taking, going to the grocery store. Exactly. Right. I mean, you’re, you’re walking past people in the grocery store or Walmart or wherever. I mean, people are still crossing in front of you and within a six month, six feet deep. Right. So now they end it with, we went to a party.
So right there, we’re going to talk about being responsible or. What was the word? No, no. Um, it was very irresponsible. So were you just irresponsible where you safe? Are you very irresponsible? Like I said, just go into a party. You’re either complicit that you were doing your best to be safe. Are your.
Barrier irresponsible, depending on who’s looking from the outside. Exactly. It all depends on who’s looking in. You say we’re no one had our ended up having COVID. Okay. So the validation on that is we know our friends event had 42 cases. But could they tie it directly provable beyond a reasonable suspicion of a doubt that it happened at his event?
Or could they have got it at a restaurant in, on bourbon street and a bar in bourbon street, people will say, well, they wouldn’t have been in that restaurant and bar in San Francisco are New York. Well, they’re closed. Uh, well, we’ll go with Miami, Miami. Okay. So. They wouldn’t have gotten it, had they not gone to that event?
That’s what some people will say, regardless if they were home, they had the same risk of getting it. I do believe, but I don’t have proof. I do believe the culprit most of the time is the airport. I think whenever I see a high number, everybody that we know that it’s gone somewhere. Yeah. Or in his coming home from going somewhere and they have COVID they flu?
Yes. We, we saw a group of, well, there’s a group of 300 people. They all went to one location and in that location, they all tested negative. When they got home, half the group tested positive. Where do you think they got it from? The only, they didn’t all get it in their different Uber’s they didn’t all get it from their own car, the taxi or anywhere.
The common denominator would be. They all went to the airport. They all got new align. They all got into a plane. They flew for hours. Well, just watched a movie out, but just watched the movie outbreak when the guy starts coughing and you see a spray going all over the airplane. So I’m a firm believer that this airplane, so the super spreaders.
Right. So how does this all affect going forward? I, um, I don’t know. I think you’re going to see less attendance at clubs a little bit. I mean, right now the attendance is out the roof. People are tired, they’re tired of it. So let’s just give you an example. If there’s 10,000, I know we’re way over 15 minutes, but if there’s 10,000 couples that are members of a club, I always asked the owner of our old club.
We had 6,500 couples every year. I said, okay, Why don’t all 6,500 couples sit at home going, what do you want to do tonight? I don’t know. What do you want to do? Well, let’s go to the club. Yeah, let’s go to the club. And he went, Oh dear God. That would be like 12, 13,000 people trying to come in the doors. He goes, thank God.
They all don’t think like that. But I, it always goes through my head, but right now everyone’s sitting at home just dying to get out. So the clubs like in Texas and stuff are just bulging at the scene. I think they’re packed because there’s really not many people. Well, and I think that though, the ones that are open are packed at the seams because people in the States that are closed are going there to go to those parties.
The biggest thing that I see in the lifestyle is. We’re social beings. We like to be out there and we like to hug. Yes, we hug everybody. And when you can’t do that for a year, even if you’re not having sex with that person, you still want to have that feeling of hugging. Right. So with that said, yeah. Um, I think once the pandemic dies down and we right now, we’re at like what?
75% less infection rates than we were a couple months ago. Interesting. It dropped that fast, but people are too in the vaccine and they’re doing all their stuff. So that’s good. That’s good that it’s coming down because that has a glimmer of hope. Yeah. For everything, for everything. I just want to go to a damn movie.
Right. We got to go to Arizona to go to the movies. They gotta actually make movies. So last question is, does the age demographic matter younger versus older and how they are or how they see COVID and lifestyle together? Yes, absolutely. We’ll give you an example. There was a F COVID party. And I think we saw somewhere like 12 couples.
Contract a COVID it’s not funny, but it’s just very ironic that, but it was during the height. It was the, I mean, like way back in may of may, of last year. But before anything was supposed to be open. Right. But it wasn’t just one. There were like a bunch of COVID parties. There was one, a college group was on a Lake or something and they were having an F COVID party.
And half of those people got Corona. Right. So that wasn’t even lifestyle. Going back to this question, I think, yes. The younger people feel that they have COVID people. They were well, back in back when it first started, they were saying that people under the age of 30 weren’t as susceptible, well, that came out to be false.
But I think, yes, a younger people have not really had a fear of it. They, they don’t, they’re not thinking about. Transmission. Right. So yeah, definitely the younger people. Now we are seeing people that have had it are going back out because they don’t think that they can get it again. Right. And so definitely the younger versus the older, I think was, uh, Especially in the heightened part of coal.
It’s a big younger people are going to the clubs at the house parties and the hotel parties. There are older people going to them, but not as predominant. Most of the older people that we talk to are getting their vaccines. They’re waiting till they’re vaccinated. Before they actually venture out to Oakland.
I am seeing that big time in the travel industry. They’re holding off on any travel until they can get that vaccination. Right. And other than that, I think the lifestyle well returned to normal. I think the lifestyle is very proactive. I don’t see it going to be, I think it’s going to kind of tame down a little bit and because once everyone starts being able to travel, most of the clubs are bolting because a lot of people can’t travel right now.
Correct. So once the travel industry, Disneyland, all those places reopen all the restaurants, open hell the restaurants aren’t even open. So if you have a club opening where restaurants aren’t opening, you can imagine where are they going to go? Yep. So once everything opens back up, society will resume back to normal with a stigma about.
Being a little leery. Right, right. I think it, yeah, I do think that we’ve seen the last days of people just hugging people randomly or elbow. So tired of it. We’re going to, I was telling Tom earlier, we’re just going to start doing booby rubs. There you go. Hey, I could deal with poopy rubs all day long, especially when topless.
Alright. Until our next video, like I said, we were not going to do a Corona video because we tried it three times. We kept deleting it because it just got very depressing because we were going off track. We didn’t have a, uh, a guy to go off of. We want to thank the person from North Carolina. And again, I will reach out to you for your address.
We will send you a very cool koozie it’s right up. There and we have our stickers. Bunny can show you the sticker. We’re going to be sending a sticker. Did I get it? Yeah. You got it in there. And we’re going to send several packets of spunk lube as a thank you for the question. Absolutely. And, uh, like you said, um, definitely this will hopefully will be the last one on COVID.
Hopefully we don’t have to do one in another year. Right. And things will get back to normal as soon as possible. Yup. So until next time you guys have a great day and please send us your content questions and do like this ask questions and we will answer them on the. On the video. And if you’ll give us permission, we did not use this person’s name because we literally just got the message and I sent them a message.
They have not replied yet, so we’re not going to use their name, but if we can use your name, we will give you a shout out as the originator for the question. Absolutely. All right. Have a good night. Bye-bye.
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We are excited to be part of the launch of the Virtual Swing Party Saturday April 25th 2020 and we will be hosting our very own room during this event. See you all April 25th VIRTUALLY LIVE! – Tom and Bunny – Please click this link below to learn all the details we will be producing and more about this event! https://bit.ly/2K8r6Ti
We are excited to be hosting our very own room on the brand new Ethical Consensual Non-Monogamy Swingers Lifestyle platform “Virtual Swing Party” on April 25th 2020
With the trends of the Corona Virus aka COVID19 and the social distancing that is taking place, all the Swingers Lifestyle clubs, House Parties and Hotel take-over events have been shut down in order to let this pandemic pass us by and to get the world back to a normal state.
Virtual Swing party has brought to us the concept of a large scale convention type feel in a virtual setting known as Virtual Swinging throughout the lifestyle community and we were invited to host one of the many rooms they will have open and available to guest through out the event. Our room will be called “Swinging Lifestyle” and will consist of our personal opinions on what works for us in the swinging lifestyle as well as opinions on what works for others in their quest as they navigate their swinging lifestyles. This room will be a great room for Couple’s, Single Ladies and Single men who are New to the lifestyle and those experienced who can offer ideas and opinions so people can learn from our past mistakes or look into possibilities that they never thought of before!
The exact time of our room start to end will be posted soon, so we invite you to come and join us as well as navigate everything this event has to offer you.
Some of the rooms you will encounter during this event will include:
“The DJ Den” with multiple rooms of interest in music genres, and would be a great place to mix and mingle with others
“Virtual Play Rooms” This is your naughty rooms to show and participate with your sexual vibes with others watching and you watching others.
“Lights, Costumes and Action” for the guest who would like to dress in their favorite themes
“Swinging Lifestyle” Hosted by TomandBunny.com – Opinions from the host and others.
“How to make Good Pussy Better with Taylor Sparks”
“Lets Get Intimate” a demonstration of the Hi Massager with Dr’s Steve and Wendy
Please feel free to click any of the images to go directly to Virtual Swing Party’s website for all the information and how to book the event for April 25th, 2020
For those in the lifestyle, the act of social distancing is especially hard. We are part of a community where so many relationships extend beyond those with whom we live. We look forward to the day when we all celebrate being “social” again together with our closest and dearest friends!
So, we are excited to announce that a group of the country’s top lifestyle promoters have teamed up to bring you Virtual Swing Parties that mirror the experience of being at an actual live event!!!
With everyone safely at home helping to defeat the virus, so many of our colleagues have been searching for a way to get back into the “swing” of things from the comfort of home. So, we have assembled a group of the lifestyle’s best Party Hosts, DJ’s, Educators, that are glad to help make this the biggest and sexiest online party ever!??
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Email from a couple who went to a swingers club We received an email that a couple went to their local swingers club and they did not hook up, now one of them feel that it was a waste of money and doesn’t want to go back. This episode we discuss different view points of what we would do..
Leave a comment below and tell us your thought on this subject, have you ever been with someone who was fresh out of the shower or have you been with someone that had the smell of funk all in their crotch area? we want to know! Post below.
We answer your questions and we were asked what we personally look for in a swingers club. Note: This podcast is based off a video we did for our Vlogs on our website
We travel all over the nation for Tom’s Trips, your Leader in Adult Lifestyle Travel and one of the greatest part of our job is that we get to attend some of the most amazing Consensual Non Monogamy Swingers Lifestyle Clubs and the clubs that stand out from the rest we like to capture on video to give our audience a look inside these amazing clubs before they attend their events. Recently we were asked what we personally look for in a lifestyle club when we attend as a guest and we thought, what a great question! We don’t review clubs, but we can tell people what appeals to us personally when we want to go out for a night or weekend. We hope you enjoy this podcast.
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Swinging with a couple and excited for round two, is there more to it or just hype?
We talk about avoiding meeting other couples or singles in hopes that the one couple that you played with will play in round two. We discuss how we also wanted to play with couples multiple times and like everything, life takes you on twist and turns and why we are often one hit wonders with most of the people we play with. We give our honest opinion of putting all your eggs into one basket and having blinders on about meeting others because you had a great first encounter with a couple only to find that the second encounter was not all the expectations were going to be and the awkwardness of many second chance play situations.
going to a swingers lifestyle club for Free! or Try before you Buy mentality. In this video we discuss a question that is often asked that can a couple or single go to a swingers club for the first time without paying any entry fees or membership cost. We talk about our experience of running a club for almost 20 years and how expensive it is for these clubs are to operate and that without them people in the lifestyle would have no where to go, so supporting these clubs is what keeps your lifestyle fun and exciting and a great way to meet people!
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Are Swingers too pushy at clubs? Today we discuss a topic we came across on facebook where a profile said that they were not swingers or in the lifestyle but they go to a swingers club or lifestyle club because they just want to socialize and dance and that the people who want to fuck others or fuck anyone willing to fuck were disgusting. We say we live in a glass house and we are not the moral majority and therefore should not throw stones in a glass house. in this podcast we give our personal politically incorrect opinion about this subject.